Should take you golfing with me.
Don't do it philsey he's gonna have you find his balls!
Should take you golfing with me.
Don't do it philsey he's gonna have you find his balls!
Damn you RubiconSS I almost spit up my drink all over my computer.
What was in the cup?
Johnny, Johnny, Johnny ---- sorry your post got "lost". Don't worry pal, I got yer back.
Anyone know how CTH's post could have gotten lost?
1% milk. Mmmmmmm milk.
Go Cyclones.
Well played Philsey...well played.
Now lets get back on track and talk about how all 4runners have cheap plastic.
" Even Metal is made out of Plastic"
Now you are starting to scare me...:banana:.....Be Safe
Do you think Toyota cheaped out on the 5G 4Runner?
The biggest competition Toyota faced when we were looking to purchase was the Ford Explorer. While the Toyota is obviously more capable than the Ford off-road they are pretty evenly matched in other areas... mpg, towing capacity, etc.
Except the Ford Explorer has a zillion complaints against it by disgruntled owners mostly from the transmission failing just out of warrant when Ford wouldn't replace it. If you Google Ford Explorer problems and complaints it just goes on forever.
I did the same thing. My 99 SR5 (manual transmission) was $32k msrp I paid $30K. My 11 TE with KDSS was about $40K msrp I paid $37K. The 11 has 4 wheel disc brakes, 4.0L vs 3.4L engine with chain driven camshaft drive. In 12 years only a $5-8K increase in price? Toyota has not decontented the 4R that much so they must have made a larger profit in 1999. BTW my 99 still has to do all the dirty work around here like exploring nasty FS roads and putting up with the magnesium chloride on the winter highways. The TE is a better riding highway car with better gas mileage 23mpg vs 21mpg.In terms of Toyota cheaping out from the 4th Gen i can't comment. but I can say that I did pay practically the same for my 5th Gen as I did for my 97 T4R. Toyota did add some creature comforts to the 5th gen that I do not have on my 3rd gen that I still own like outside temp. miles till empty, bettere steareo, etc.
But they did take away such things as the locking gas door and the power attenna. Which I did expect them to keep on a vehicle of this caliber. I also must say that the sheetmetal is definitley tinny sounding on my new truck over my old truck. I found the same situation when buying my new Maxima. Just not built as well as my old one. Car companies have to cut back some how in order to be profitable. It's still up to the consumer to make the decision as to what they are willing to live with.
I bought another 4Runner because of the positive experience I had with my 3rd Gen. Hopefully it will last 15 years just like my 97 has so far.
I briefly (very briefly) considered a Ford Explorer when I was getting my T4R. It was not a serious consideration but I was curious. A brief visit to a Ford dealership took care of that.
It's like something Donnie would say on the Big Labowski.....:biggrin2:
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