Toyota cheaped out?

Johnny, Johnny, Johnny ---- sorry your post got "lost". Don't worry pal, I got yer back.



Anyone know how CTH's post could have gotten lost?

CTH = Captian Tiny Head. I love it lol. Five years from now when Johnny posts and his replies start with "CTH" everyone that was not here right now will be googling CTH thinking it is some new texting abbreviation. Love it!
 
Well played Philsey...well played.

Now lets get back on track and talk about how all 4runners have cheap plastic.

Where did all you guys find a 4runner with cheap plastic. Mines came with expensive plastic and lots of it. Did them other guys not see the plastic before they bought?
 
I dunno what all you guys did but Package G2C-H was an Upgrade. Clearly stated that:
Package G2C-H will include a clean glove compartment (Gloves are for old a$$ people), Moonroof AND Sunroof in one for better upward viewing. ALL tire air is both Clean and Green no need to let any out because it smells like a sweat sock tucked in an armpit under Grannys Adult Diaper so take our word for it.
ALL cheap a$$ plastic will be upgraded to much better plastic like "other" folks have.
Cost: $2.49 (MSRP)

I did it! I checked that Box Man, Hard. (In Pen) Yep
 
I was never interested in a 4Runner until the 5th Gens came out. Guess that makes me a cheap plastic whore.

Will say those who have hopped in the car for the first time tend to comment on how nice the interior is. Guess it's good I don't have a 4th Gen, because with all its fanciness, they'd be creaming all over. The great news about - not - coming from a 4th to 5th Gen is I have nothing to get over.
 
EVERYTHING is Plastic anymore, Even Metal is made out of Plastic.
It is what it is - Stuff that needs to be Metal is still metal. I would rather have weight savings where I can get it. OMG! This keyboard and mouse are Plastic! When did mice stop being made out of mouse stuff.....
 
Do you think Toyota cheaped out on the 5G 4Runner?
The biggest competition Toyota faced when we were looking to purchase was the Ford Explorer. While the Toyota is obviously more capable than the Ford off-road they are pretty evenly matched in other areas... mpg, towing capacity, etc.

Except the Ford Explorer has a zillion complaints against it by disgruntled owners mostly from the transmission failing just out of warrant when Ford wouldn't replace it. If you Google Ford Explorer problems and complaints it just goes on forever.
 
I briefly (very briefly) considered a Ford Explorer when I was getting my T4R. It was not a serious consideration but I was curious. A brief visit to a Ford dealership took care of that.
 
Except the Ford Explorer has a zillion complaints against it by disgruntled owners mostly from the transmission failing just out of warrant when Ford wouldn't replace it. If you Google Ford Explorer problems and complaints it just goes on forever.

Anyone stupid enough to buy a Ford deserves whatever they get.
 
In terms of Toyota cheaping out from the 4th Gen i can't comment. but I can say that I did pay practically the same for my 5th Gen as I did for my 97 T4R. Toyota did add some creature comforts to the 5th gen that I do not have on my 3rd gen that I still own like outside temp. miles till empty, bettere steareo, etc.
But they did take away such things as the locking gas door and the power attenna. Which I did expect them to keep on a vehicle of this caliber. I also must say that the sheetmetal is definitley tinny sounding on my new truck over my old truck. I found the same situation when buying my new Maxima. Just not built as well as my old one. Car companies have to cut back some how in order to be profitable. It's still up to the consumer to make the decision as to what they are willing to live with.
I bought another 4Runner because of the positive experience I had with my 3rd Gen. Hopefully it will last 15 years just like my 97 has so far.
I did the same thing. My 99 SR5 (manual transmission) was $32k msrp I paid $30K. My 11 TE with KDSS was about $40K msrp I paid $37K. The 11 has 4 wheel disc brakes, 4.0L vs 3.4L engine with chain driven camshaft drive. In 12 years only a $5-8K increase in price? Toyota has not decontented the 4R that much so they must have made a larger profit in 1999. BTW my 99 still has to do all the dirty work around here like exploring nasty FS roads and putting up with the magnesium chloride on the winter highways. The TE is a better riding highway car with better gas mileage 23mpg vs 21mpg.
 

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