Which gun would you get?

[Dirtyfingers]

Have you looked into sig sauger?

Edit:I'm retarded

 

[hounddogman]

Howdy, New member here but a fair amount of experience with handguns and thought I would give my 2 cents. Don't go with the Glock due to the lack of external safety's. I know it does not seem like a big thing and a Glock will not fire without the trigger being pulled but that tiny little safety lever on a different handgun may turn a moment of negligence into a lifetime learning experience instead of pain and or heartbreak. Personal experience here. God Bless.

 

[montana_jeepn]

Thanks for all the advice guys!

Basically it sounds like I need to get back out to the range, gather up a few different guns and shoot them back to back.

Once I pick a gun, shooting lessons from a professional will be on my to-do list. And of course I will be putting plenty of rounds through this thing so shooting it will be like second nature.

I live close to a Cabelas so I think next Monday night I am going to head up there and fondle a few guns.

-Brian

A friend of mine is an instructor up that way....lives in Allentown, works in Philly. Shoot me a PM if you want his info.

 

[lastlaugh]

I worked combat arms for many years in the military, and taught many new troops to shoot, and MPs to shoot better. I will be the first to admit, I am biased when it comes to handgun selection. All the pistols you listed are fine firearms so Ill try to give a more in depth opinion on them:

Glock- i love them. Absolutely amazing piece of simple engineering, the AK of pistols. They arent the prettiest, or the most accurate, but they will go bang.....every single time. I have never seen one fail by fault of the gun.

Sig - also a really nice weapon. I didnt want to like them at first. They sit so high in my hand, but shoot oh so damn good. I believe they are a little overpriced for what they are tho.

S&W M&p - i had a m&p 9c and loved it. Very comfortable to shoot and very accurate for me. I really like they way they extended the sight radius by putting the sight on the very ends of the slide. I got rid of it because it just didnt hold my interest. Good gun tho.

H&K - lol, I think i said this in a previous post "HK is german for 'you paid too much'". They are, for the most part, good guns. They are usually highly technical firearms. Bleeding edge technology. I have seen multiple ones fail. I do not have experience with the p30 however, but have heard good things about it. Very overpriced for what you get IMO.

Which brings me to my favorite: CZ!
You will never talk to a CZ owner who doesnt like their gun. They are amazingly accurate, feel like they were custom molded to your hand, and shoot better than any gun I have ever held. I have 6 of them. The CZ 75 P01 is probably the most tested gun in history (yes, even more than the glock. Look it up).

No matter what you choose, get some professional trainig by a reputable trainer. These days everyone has a class and BS credentials to go with it. Find ine thats the real deal and learn as much as possible. When you are comfortable, try out some local IDPA competitions. You will be amazed how much you learn!

 

[RiFF RaFF]

That's a diverse group of firearms you are comparing there.

I am a huge Glock fan (I own more Glocks than I do shirts). That said, the Glock is not likely the choice for you. For one, there is nothing but a trigger safety on it. Not a big deal if you are seasoned and are use to it. But for your first firearm, it may be a risk not worth taking. Not to mention you want DA.

If you just like the feel of the Glock, you may want to shoot the Springfield XD, it is very similar but has a safeties.

If you are going to buy a gun you need to shoot several. don't pay attention to the caliber. Find a firearm that you feel 100% comfortable and confident shooting. Find one that has the recoil you feel comfortable with, fined one with a safety system that you feel safe with, and find one you can shoot accurately with that does not fatigue your hand or arms. It may end up being a 9mm, 10mm, .40, .45 or even a 380.... but it has to be YOUR ideal gun.

Many of us on here have shot so many guns for so long muscle memory takes over and the firearm in your hand is of little significance. But that can be a problem also, we end up with favorites (because you can tell the difference), and when you shoot enough, you just learn what you like. My point is, your first gun should not be the coolest gun, the biggest gun, the most expensive gun....all that can come later, your first gun should be the most appropriate and perfect gun for you. Except for Lorcin....NEVER buy a Lorcin.

Thanks for all the advice guys!

Basically it sounds like I need to get back out to the range, gather up a few different guns and shoot them back to back.

Once I pick a gun, shooting lessons from a professional will be on my to-do list. And of course I will be putting plenty of rounds through this thing so shooting it will be like second nature.

I live close to a Cabelas so I think next Monday night I am going to head up there and fondle a few guns.

-Brian

Tons of really great advice.

My question is - for home defense the big question is:

1. Are you the only one living in your house/apartment?
2. Why a pistol for home defense?
3. Have you considered buying a pistol for sporting, and a shotgun for home defense? When you're stoked with adrenaline good luck hitting the broad side of a barn with a pistol unless you've been very well trained, and lots of practice.

On the other hand when you ratchet that first round into a shotgun's chamber only a drugged up thug would keep pressing the issue. When you go BANG - you will hit your target.

With all that said - pick the handgun that FITS you. Both in size and in shooting. Personally I prefer a .45 ACP for CCW. I know that when I have to shoot to defend myself, or others (and I pray I never have to) a .45 ACP - even if it's not center mass - will stop most anything. My .45 carry is a Kimber Crimson Ultra Carry II. Compact, and VERY accurate!

My other favorite (during hot summer days) is my SIG P238 .380 ACP. it fits my hand (I'm 5'11"), and is just a nice pistol for up close and personal.

For camping, off roading, and nasty weather - it's my Glock 32 .357 SIG. I know that no matter how cruddy it gets - it's going to fire everytime. When at the range I swap out the .357 SIG barrel for a .40 S&W Lone Wolf Barrel since .40 ammo is so cheap, and available.

As for ammo you can find it online a whole lot cheaper than in a brick and mortar store.

My favorites are:

Cheaper Than Dirt - America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter

Cheap Ammo For Sale | In Stock Ammunition For Sale

Widener's Reloading and Shooting Supply INC

and

Shop Shooting Supplies | Reloading | Gunsmithing | Hunting gear ? MidwayUSA

to name a few.

Recently I added one more .45 ACP to my collection. A Springfield 1911 A1

Can't wait for range time!

:uzi:

 

[SV_Dude]

Have you considered a minigun?

 

[RiFF RaFF]

I want this for my house and home.

:shocked:

or this ...



perfect for zombies (or libtards....LOL!)

:spit:

 

[Top_Raw_Man]

I purchased a Glock 26 this past November for conceal purposes. And recently purchased a Glock 19 for range/home defense. I was considering going with a bigger caliber gun before purchasing the 19. I was out looking for ammo one day for my brother (who owns a Glock 27 40cal) at Walmart and they had a box of 100 round Winchesters for 38$. Which is not a bad price...but 100 rounds of Winchester 9mm only cost 26$. So I figure I would keep my hand guns at the same caliber just so its cheaper. Plus a 9mm with a hallow point is just as good for home defense. Hell it worked for the police department for many years.

 

[97BlackAckCL]

It really depends on you and your hands as to what fits the best