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The President of the United States is a trademark, not the company.

I'm afraid we will never again get a say in what the company does in this country.
 
Well I really really don't like HC on foreign policy.

She is strait up to far right of GW Bush on her policies.

She supports expanding US wars while at the same time demmanding open borders for people fleeing the very wars the US started or made worse. Syria is a perfect example.

Also she has stated she wants to escalate against Russia by declaring a no fly zone over parts of Russian controlled Syria. So now we are supposed to shoot down Russia planes, kill their pilots? Over what again - support for Syrian rebels and civilians in a secratarian religious civil war?

This is real WW3 stuff here. Sorry but I'm not in for that kind of a future. Russia is a real power with real Nuclear weapons. They really can put nuclear assets extremely close to the US, they have ICBMs, they have Cruise Missiles which are Nuclear capable, they have Nuclear powered subs which can fire nuclear missiles. Do we really want to go back to the Cold War over the Syrians? Hillary has publicly said she fully supports escalating with Russia.

Why would we want to go through such an escalation for rebel groups who do not share any common values, beliefs or alliegance with America. It is crazy.

Do you have some links to where she said she wants to escalate war with Syria and Russia? I've got some friends that are on the Hillary bandwagon that love to project that fact. I'd like to have some sources for argument.
 
Do you have some links to where she said she wants to escalate war with Syria and Russia? I've got some friends that are on the Hillary bandwagon that love to project that fact. I'd like to have some sources for argument.

[MENTION=122215]SupaSupra[/MENTION]

Just look at the democratic debates or any article discussing them or google Clinton and "no fly zone" she has repeatedly stated she supports declaring a no-fly-zone over Syria.

Tell your friends to wake the F#CK UP. This isn't even a single event. It happened in Libya as well, just look at the recent links below. These are national newspapers. It isn't even a secret.
* Libya, America with Clinton's full support funded Jihadist Islamic Rebels with weapons and arms, now ISIS is running the show
* Syria, America with Clinton's full support funded Jihadist Islamic Rebels with weapons and arms, now ISIS is NEAR running the show
==> That is just in the last 5 years. I won't even mention Iraq.

Few Americans (perhaps your friends as well) have any f#$king idea what a no-fly-zone is. It means that US warplanes will have to take out anti-air batteries so that it is safe for US fighter jets to "own the sky" which is how the Pentagon does these things. Then after taking out and killing all of the anti-air missile batteries, which btw are Russian and manned by Russian troops, all of this within the state of Syria, then US Fighter Jets will patrol the skies 24x7 and shoot down any other threatening planes or helicopters from the regeme. The argument is that the Syrian government is using air-power to attack civilians and rebels and therefore the US should "take the skies" and enforce a no fly zone.

It is a HUGE HUGE escalation and will put us on a fighting path with Russia. I don't get it. Russia sounds like the boogie man but honestly I am really concerned about terrorism and global destabilization, not Russia.

Even now they are starting to blame the migrant crisis on Russia. Is Russia probably happy to see all the migrants flooding the EU. Perhaps so. It does destabilize the continent even further, the continent is at the breaking point.

BUT Russia did not start the migrant crisis.

In fact if the US had simply:
1) Supported Assad in the beginning
2) not supported the so called rebels (with money and arms) in the beginning
3) not allowed our so called allies (Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar) to fund these Jihadist rebels
4) not allowed a so called NATO ally named Turkey to keep its border open with Syria which they did for 3 years effectively enabling the terrorist / ISIS trail from Europe to Syria

Those simple things would have kept Syria from falling and kept ISIS from taking so much territory in Syria.

The whole situation is ridiculous. We don't bomb Mosal or Raqa which are the headquarters of ISIS. We do give money and arms to Jihadists. We do blame Russia for everything.

Sorry but at some point the CLINTONITES (and btw the Republicans as well) need to own up to their actions.


Lastly, I posted a bunch of links about Clinton and her hawkish support for war here: (post 32)
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/off-t...yian-so-called-good-rebels-2.html#post2287697


Interview - The Libya Gamble: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Push for War & the Making of a Failed State
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.democracynow.org/embed/story/2016/3/3/the_libya_gamble_inside_hillary_clinton" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe>

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/3/the_libya_gamble_inside_hillary_clinton


Salon.com - Even critics understate how catastrophically bad the Hillary Clinton-led NATO bombing of Libya was
Even critics understate how catastrophically bad the Hillary Clinton-led NATO bombing of Libya was - Salon.com


02-27-16 | NYT: The Libya Gamble Part I | Hillary Clinton, ‘Smart Power’ and a Dictator’s Fall
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html?_r=1


02-27-16 | NYT: The Libya Gamble Part II | A New Libya, With ‘Very Little Time Left’
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/libya-isis-hillary-clinton.html


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According to NYT (which many would consider at least on the left) she was the major driving force for the terrible intervention in Libya (which most Americans have forgotten) which led to Isis now having extended its Caliphate to within 300 miles of the shores of Europe. She was the one who outright WANTED TO GO TO WAR and pushed for the argument within the White House. Still Obama's fault yes but he isn't running for president again.

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[MENTION=122215]SupaSupra[/MENTION]

Just look at the democratic debates or any article discussing them or google Clinton and "no fly zone" she has repeatedly stated she supports declaring a no-fly-zone over Syria.

Few Americans (perhaps your friends as well) have any f#$king idea what a no-fly-zone is. It means that US warplanes will have to take out anti-air batteries so that it is safe for US fighter jets to "own the sky" which is how the Pentagon does these things. Then after taking out and killing all of the anti-air missile batteries, which btw are Russian and manned by Russian troops, all of this within the state of Syria, then US Fighter Jets will patrol the skies 24x7 and shoot down any other threatening planes or helicopters from the regeme. The argument is that the Syrian government is using air-power to attack civilians and rebels and therefore the US should "take the skies" and enforce a no fly zone.

It is a HUGE HUGE escalation and will put us on a fighting path with Russia. I don't get it. Russia sounds like the boogie man but honestly I am really concerned about terrorism and global destabilization, not Russia.

Even now they are starting to blame the migrant crisis on Russia. Is Russia probably happy to see all the migrants flooding the EU. Perhaps so. It does destabilize the continent even further, the continent is at the breaking point.

BUT Russia did not start the migrant crisis.

In fact if the US had simply:
1) Supported Assad in the beginning
2) not supported the so called rebels (with money and arms) in the beginning
3) not allowed our so called allies (Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar) to fund these Jihadist rebels
4) not allowed a so called NATO ally named Turkey to keep its border open with Syria which they did for 3 years effectively enabling the terrorist / ISIS trail from Europe to Syria

Those simple things would have kept Syria from falling and kept ISIS from taking so much territory in Syria.

The whole situation is ridiculous. We don't bomb Mosal or Raqa which are the headquarters of ISIS. We do give money and arms to Jihadists. We do blame Russia for everything.

Sorry but at some point the CLINTONITES (and btw the Republicans as well) need to own up to their actions.


Lastly, I posted a bunch of links about Clinton and her hawkish support for war here: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/off-t...yian-so-called-good-rebels-2.html#post2287697

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Thanks for the run down, I'll do some research. Yes, most of my friends would have no clue what a no-fly zone actually is.

I agree with your statements as well. escalating war with Russia isn't a good idea.
 
The whole situation is very frustrating and I'm sorry if I come across as a bit pissed off about it.

As a citizen, taxpayer and veteran it really bothers me to see the US involved in wasteful conflicts that benefit our own citizens in no way. Literally TRILLIONS of dollars wasted in the last 15 years on conflicts (yes inadvertently) that have only made the world a less safe place.

Meanwhile American families can't afford medical care, college, we don't even have money to fix the potholes on the roads.

Clinton (perhaps even moreso than Bush or Trump) will take America to war, NEW WARS, BIGGER WARS.

I don't like Trump either because he comes across as a total racist which is a huge problem for me. I'm not very happy about my choices right now.

The links above are pretty damming. One link you should definitely check out is this video new report from today:
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/3/the_libya_gamble_inside_hillary_clinton


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The whole situation is very frustrating and I'm sorry if I come across as a bit pissed off about it.

As a citizen, taxpayer and veteran it really bothers me to see the US involved in wasteful conflicts that benefit our own citizens in no way. Literally TRILLIONS of dollars wasted in the last 15 years on conflicts (yes inadvertently) that have only made the world a less safe place.

Meanwhile American families can't afford medical care, college, we don't even have money to fix the potholes on the roads.

Clinton (perhaps even moreso than Bush or Trump) will take America to war, NEW WARS, BIGGER WARS.

I don't like Trump either because he comes across as a total racist which is a huge problem for me. I'm not very happy about my choices right now.

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You should really be upset with Trump since because of him Hillary will surely be our next President. That is a horrible shame and an abomination.
 
The whole situation is very frustrating and I'm sorry if I come across as a bit pissed off about it.

As a citizen, taxpayer and veteran it really bothers me to see the US involved in wasteful conflicts that benefit our own citizens in no way. Literally TRILLIONS of dollars wasted in the last 15 years on conflicts (yes inadvertently) that have only made the world a less safe place.

Meanwhile American families can't afford medical care, college, we don't even have money to fix the potholes on the roads.

Clinton (perhaps even moreso than Bush or Trump) will take America to war, NEW WARS, BIGGER WARS.

I don't like Trump either because he comes across as a total racist which is a huge problem for me. I'm not very happy about my choices right now.

The links above are pretty damming. One link you should definitely check out is this video new report from today:
The Libya Gamble: Inside Hillary Clinton?s Push for War & the Making of a Failed State | Democracy Now!


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I don't blame you. We the people end up paying for this bullshit we don't actually want any part in.

You should really be upset with Trump since because of him Hillary will surely be our next President. That is a horrible shame and an abomination.
I don't think so, I don't think Hillary could beat Trump in a general election. He's not your typical candidate, and doesn't give a shit what he says about the other party. Bernie won't beat him that's for sure, and on some fluke he did, he'd keel over before his first term was even over, and he'd get shut down by a majority Republican Congress.
 
I don't blame you. We the people end up paying for this bullshit we don't actually want any part in.


I don't think so, I don't think Hillary could beat Trump in a general election. He's not your typical candidate, and doesn't give a shit what he says about the other party. Bernie won't beat him that's for sure, and on some fluke he did, he'd keel over before his first term was even over, and he'd get shut down by a majority Republican Congress.

And the next debate (aka the Republican version of the Jerry Springer Show) is tonight, right?

Great.....another national embarrassment.....an exercise in futility and real white trash convention. Will there be bouncers?

What a disgrace.
 
I sometimes don't think people understand just how dangerous Hillary can be. I keep hearing that Trump will lead us to war, but I don't buy it. He will piss, has pissed, a lot of people off, but will not lead us to war.
 
God save us if Hilary is to win

The tiebreaker for me between Cruz and Trump is that WHOOPI said she's leaving the U.S. If Trump wins, stupid I know but trump has my vote and my 10 other votes if I claim to lose my license and say I'm an illegal.
 
God save us if Hilary is to win

The tiebreaker for me between Cruz and Trump is that WHOOPI said she's leaving the U.S. If Trump wins, stupid I know but trump has my vote and my 10 other votes if I claim to lose my license and say I'm an illegal.

In MN you can take dementia and Alzheimer's patients to vote and "help" them fill out the form just ask my grandpa he voted and can't even recognize me.
 
I sometimes don't think people understand just how dangerous Hillary can be. I keep hearing that Trump will lead us to war, but I don't buy it. He will piss, has pissed, a lot of people off, but will not lead us to war.


Oh? Trump will surely be the bigger man and treat other world leaders with respect. Your point has no factual basis other than, 'you think'. I'm not bashing you, but what you're saying sounds like pure conjecture.
 
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