willbgood
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I would second this. WM has to be forced into "asking" to delete evidence. Why would he do that now. The threads were closed and the forum was quiet? Now after the settlement "he" is "asking" to remove all threads of basic incriminating evidence against Paul and his company. Legal 101 people. Gobi is watching the forum and doing a PR smear campagin, and now still they are tryng to get this public community to dispose of any evidence of this occurring. All evidence of WM has been deleted on the web . . no website or Facebook. Nothing. If a true design change was in effect why would he need/"want" to delete his only means of communication. I dont believe an "agreement" was reached. Moreso a threat. The company is disgraceful and the public should be able to view the public forum in its entirety.
If Gobi was a truly honest company why would they delete any discussion of evidence on here and Facebook and their website.
I can not speak for Josh, but I can speak as someone who has gone an intellectual property dispute, and it was my property that was abused. No I definitely do not think that is the case, here.
These types of legal battles sap the energy of all involved and they can distract you from your future goals and plans...No matter who is right and who is wrong, both parties brands get hurt. In the south we have a saying that applies...let sleeping dogs lay, translated, let Josh get back to his work, and building his future plans, that is what he has requested of all us.
By the way, for anyone who is interested, I learned a very valuable lesson during my dispute...it is not the day the patent is filed that determines who has the "intellectual" property right to the property, which is actually something that is almost ethereal. A patent is not like anything else in this world as it basically is the government recognition that an idea exist and its yours, even if it is in your head, and another guy is building, or programing it.
So, the day you can prove you had the idea, is the date used to determine whose property right it is. Unfortunately, how do you prove something that lives in your head, on a card, or in a notebook, predates the other?
Therefore, whenever I have an idea, the first thing I do is draw it and define it, write a cover letter, have it notarized, (an unnecessary extra precaution,) place it in an envelope and mail it to myself certified. It does not ever get opened, and like the idea in my brain, it might jus be stored in my safe until I die, unless I have to defend myself in court. Of course after the first step, I do a thorough patent search, (this also teaches you to write a good description as a bonus).
I have one experience when I was contacted by an attorney, where I held up the envelope, and described what was in it, asked if his client was a gambler. The attorney advised his client to drop it. I was not bluffing, but also told them I had no problem with them continuing their operations.
After my first beating in a patent case, I decided never again...let the free market reign, but I will protect myself.
My guess is that Gobi's victory is bittersweet, if it is not now, it will be, and Josh wants to get on with life...kill this thread, and Let sleeping dogs lay.
If you really want to support Josh, encourage him to get the bumper plans, and slider plans together, pricing, and then buy a set...but be advised, I think I am already ahead of you on the list.