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DocMT said:
The funny thing is that Thai would be agreeing with you if it didn't dig him deeper into the hole that he already dug for himself. See, Thai is an opportunist and whenever he starts a debate, it is easy to watch him backpedal.
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The real funny thing as you make a mockery to all forums with your trolling for arguments and post whoring.

These are facts that us that have been on here awhile know.......DocMT was once registered under username Jed.... who was BANNED from the forum for this same type of opinionated BS post whoring last year multiple times until he was permenantly banned . Here was his last post before he re-registered under his new name of DocMT.......http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/69695-looks-like-i-am-going-dark-side-5.html#post624094

He wasn't banned for that post but you can read his previous post under Jed to see the exact same attitude as here and his multiple bannings.What gave him away under his new DocMT username is his disregard for multi quoting so he can build his post count up.(post whoring).

Try to find even one picture or question of his supposed 4Runner that DocMt or Jed for that matter has EVER posted.

DocMT/Jed ...I wait your reply about these FACTS.

Here are the forum rules the rest of us have to go by except DocMT /Jed...... http://www.toyota-4runner.org/new-m...r-org-new-members-please-read.html#post442413

Thai just loves a good aruement but at least he backs most of them up with facts!
 
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Thai said:
Really?!! Boy, you not only miss the boat, you miss the freaking dock! For someone who talks so much, you sure don't get it!

Dense little kid, aren't you???? Ok...i think that everyone here can see who is backpedaling and deflecting...but believe all you want dude. You seemingly can't comprehend what is written...please, RE-read what i wrote before you type more idiotic comments!!

And no, i will never buy an Audi nor a VW...nor a Land Rover. So, yeah, personally, i don't think highly of them. Clear?

Have a good day.
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Wow, I certainly must have struck a chord! LOL. There's truth in what I said and deep down you know it. As for your little kid comment, I'm older than you (and obviously wiser as well), so save those comments for someone that they actually apply.
 
1engineer said:
Simply put, a warranty is nothing more than a simple contract for the seller to honor and fix material and workmanship defects for an agreed upon length of time. What I meant by sales concessions is, after a historical analysis of defects and repairs for the product, the cost of said parts and repairs are factored in to the cost of the new product. The seller can then A) Add the full cost of future warranty claims up front or B) Can make a "deal" with the customer and only charge a portion of the future warranty cost in the selling price. Hence "sales concession." In my real world, I deal with these decisions every day. The future cost of repairs is built into the selling price of the product.
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I already told you that a warranty is a pre-sold insurance contract. In other words, the warranty that is included has a value that is already rolled into the cost of the vehicle when you purchase it.

Your last sentence actually agrees with everything I said, so what are you even debating about?

This reminds me of the suckers who think they are getting "free" maintenance when they buy a new BMW. LOL...it's not free. The cost is already rolling into the selling price of the vehicle. Same thing is true with warranties. It's easy to predict the average cost of repairs for any given vehicle using simple statistics and prior repair history.
 
KCcarguy said:
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Sounds like this is an argumnet baesd on perspective. Some people buy cars with styling and features as priority, others put reliability/ longevity at the top. I personally go for the later with my trucks (and probably most guys on the forum). The JGC is a nice package if you dont mind the occasional trip to the shop. And Doc has a nice car to drive while his jeep is being worked on. To each their own.
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Of course it is perspective. I said a few times already that some people buy based upon the "safe" bet---in other words, they'll only buy the most reliable car they can afford. Other people buy what they like, regardless of how reliable it may or may not be compared to other vehicles. Toyota built its customer base on the first kind of person, which is why they're known to build reliable cars that are a bit bland and boring. Nothing wrong with that, especially if that's your objective.

People who buy vehicles like Audi, Mercedes, BMW, Land Rover, etc..aren't buying them because they are super reliable. They have other reasons, obviously. Different strokes for different folks. I purchased my Audi because it is simply amazing looking and it drives like a dream. I couldn't find a car that was more suited to what I was looking for in a car than my Audi. If Toyota made the same exact car with a Toyota badge on it, I would have purchased it, no doubt about it.
 
harper7 said:
The real funny thing as you make a mockery to all forums with your trolling for arguments and post whoring.

These are facts that us that have been on here awhile know.......DocMT was once registered under username Jed.... who was BANNED from the forum for this same type of opinionated BS post whoring last year multiple times until he was permenantly banned . Here was his last post before he re-registered under his new name of DocMT.......http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/69695-looks-like-i-am-going-dark-side-5.html#post624094

He wasn't banned for that post but you can read his previous post under Jed to see the exact same attitude as here and his multiple bannings.What gave him away under his new DocMT username is his disregard for multi quoting so he can build his post count up.(post whoring).

Try to find even one picture or question of his supposed 4Runner that DocMt or Jed for that matter has EVER posted.

DocMT/Jed ...I wait your reply about these FACTS.

Here are the forum rules the rest of us have to go by except DocMT /Jed...... http://www.toyota-4runner.org/new-m...r-org-new-members-please-read.html#post442413

Thai just loves a good aruement but at least he backs most of them up with facts!
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Sorry, but you are wrong on all counts. Are you suggesting that I don't own a 4Runner? Seriously? That's funny because I have posted pictures of my 4Runner.

If you want me to really make you look foolish, then just challenge me and I'll be more than happy to oblige.

It's funny how you think you know something, but you're completely off on everything you said.
 
SeattleMike said:
Why does it matter who asks?
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Okay..I reconsidered. Tell me how to prove the stuff harper said. Keep in mind that certain things cannot be proven. For example, I saw a guy the other day who was 11 feet tall, with lime green skin and 7 arms. Can you prove that I'm lying about that? Of course you can't.

So if you want me to prove something, it must be something that can be proven.
 
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DocMT said:
Okay..I reconsidered. Tell me how to prove the stuff harper said. Keep in mind that certain things cannot be proven. For example, I saw a guy the other say who was 11 feet tall, with lime green skin and 7 arms. Can you prove that I'm lying about that? Of course you can't.

So if you want me to prove something, it must be something that can be proven.
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Well, for starter, go outside...write "DOCMT 2011" on a piece of paper...and then take a picture of your 4runner with this piece of paper on the windshield. And of course, post the pic in this thread.

As for Jed vs. DocMT, i am sure that a moderator/admin can look up IP addy to see if any IPs ever used by both individuals match.
 
DocMT said:
Okay..I reconsidered. Tell me how to prove the stuff harper said. Keep in mind that certain things cannot be proven. For example, I saw a guy the other say who was 11 feet tall, with lime green skin and 7 arms. Can you prove that I'm lying about that? Of course you can't.

So if you want me to prove something, it must be something that can be proven.
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BS. You said "If you want me to really make you look foolish, then just challenge me and I'll be more than happy to oblige." Harper7 made certain claims and your replied that he was wrong on all counts... prove that he was wrong on all counts (or if you really want to play semantics, disprove that his claims are true) and it will be settled.
 
Thai said:
Well, for starter, go outside...write "DOCMT 2011" on a piece of paper...and then take a picture of your 4runner with this piece of paper on the windshield.
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Is that all it will take? LOL, easy as pie.

Anyone care to make a little wager?
 
SeattleMike said:
BS. You said "If you want me to really make you look foolish, then just challenge me and I'll be more than happy to oblige." Harper7 made certain claims and your replied that he was wrong on all counts... prove that he was wrong on all counts (or if you really want to play semantics, disprove that his claims are true) and it will be settled.
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Okay, lets start with the 4Runner. harper says I'm a troll and I don't even own a 4Runner. I say harper's an idiot for thinking that. Thai already challenged me to prove I own a 4Runner. So I'll take a picture tonight (I'm driving the Audi; the 4Runner is home in the garage) of the 4Runner to prove harper wrong.

In fact, I'll make sure I get my new Audi in the picture as well, just to kill two birds with one stone. After all, if I'm lying about the 4Runner, I'm probably lying about the Audi too. LOLOLOLOL
 
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