5th GEN Hydraulic Power Steering System vs. Electric Power Steering System
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NYT4R
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I totally understand what you mean and I was concerned when they wanted to do an xray over an MRI or catscan because tendons need a deeper vision to see. But they took 3 xrays and when they showed them to me, I was able to see the muscle and the tendons. All was solid. It was actualy quite amazing too see. I can only assume that the xray was taken very lightly as to not overpower the scan and only get bone in the picture. But who am I to say. I went to a doc who has 8 orthopedists on the office. Its one of the best practices in my area. Either way, this is about heavy steering, not doctors.
Vinsil
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He is referring to the bearing preload on the sector shaft that the pitman arm is attached to. The issue here is that if it was too tight from the factory, the bearing could be damaged anyway and if that was the case, they would need replacement.
This is done (adjustment) with worn boxes or after a rebuild. BUT the box is not the only part of the equation in the end. You could be backing off preload and have not enough tension on the bearings and it will wreak the box. You have other links in the system that is there was a bind, it could be else where.
My issue here with this is...the guy stating the throttle peddle is stiff too. It's electronic, no mechanical linkage whatsoever. THAT statement tells me...it's him not his Runner. Now if he test drove another runner and said it was his Runner, I'd digest this more but I'm not.
NYT4R
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NYT4R
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My petal is stiff to me only because of the awkward seating position that I have to set my seat at in order to access the wheel better to get less strain on my arms. The petal is fine. I compared it to an Explorer the day after Thanksgiving thanks to a family member with one. Both vehicles have the same resistance. But there is a mechanical part in the gas petal....the spring in the assembly. Aside from that, you are right, its electronic.
NYT4R
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I am going to drive another 4R this week from another dealership and compare. I will be driven there by my GF so I will not have any other vehicle to compare the steering to.
Vinsil
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So let me propose this. Could it be the seating position for all your issues? If the seating puts pressure on you for the peddle (and yes, you are correct there is a spring but you know what I meant) could it also cause your arm issues?
Have you owned trucks before? Are you familiar they do offer a bit different seating pattern due to the body on frame construction compared to cars and the sub framed suvs you are referring to?
Have you owned trucks before? Are you familiar they do offer a bit different seating pattern due to the body on frame construction compared to cars and the sub framed suvs you are referring to?
Jeremy556
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Not sure if serious? 4runner has a rack and pinion and there is no adjustment without completely removing the rack.
Vinsil
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NYT4R
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Yes of course I knew what you meant. Just covering all basis. And yes I have owned trucks before. The last one was my 2006 T4R Sport. I loved it. It was a dream. I was able to turn the steering wheel with one finger, or during a fast turn, I was able to "throw" the steering wheel to make the fast turn. Ironically, this 2016 T4r Trail is totally the opposite. In order to make a right turn, I have to push up on the steering wheel with my left arm and pull down with my right arm. I wasnt even able to make a turn using a finger or 2 at the corner of the horn and the wheel without it bending my fngers back. At least now after the 4 adjustments from my local mechanic, I can make that turn with a finger or using just a palm on the wheel but it still takes effort that I never had to do before on any vehicle. I understand where you are going with this but trust me, its my Runner. And since I bought the extended bumper to bumper that includes electronics, if this rack fails because it was set too high, the dealer is going to have to deal with the repair. And its no easy procedure. From what I understand, the engine has to be lifted to ge the rack out.
NYT4R
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Sure is. Open up the hood and look down at where the steering linkage meets the rack. Its right there. And it is adjustable. But its not easy.
NYT4R
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I am going to try another dealer this week. I am also going to have my local mechanic back off the preload another 5 degrees regardless. Its either that or trade it in, sell it and take a loss or complain until the 6th gen comes out. LOL. Thanks for replies.
Vinsil
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Hope you find a solution. In the end....it won't be much of a loss....resale is crazy on these.
NYT4R
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This thread lost me at the sissy man that thinks 5th gen steering is too much work. Yet I grew up with manual steering and my sissy ass arms never complained back then.
Might I suggest these.
Your out of line. Might I suggest you come here and drive my 4R for yourself. Open invitation. Dinner is on me. Tough guy.
Vinsil
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This thread lost me at the sissy man that thinks 5th gen steering is too much work. Yet I grew up with manual steering and my sissy ass arms never complained back then.
Might I suggest these.
These are 37" Creepy Crawlers. Factory PS with a 2F. ARB's front and and rear. No steering issues..
b407driver
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It's clearly the wrong vehicle for you if you've driven other 5th Gens that behave the same way. My suggestion (since you asked) would be to sell the 4Runner, and delete your T4R account.
And for $hite sakes, people, it's 'pedal'... lol :frusty:
Jaydub514
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We in here throwing steering wheels, operating stiff 'petals' and bending fingers...BRUUUHHHH..
Interested to see what your thoughts are when driving a different 4Runner.
NorthwoodsRunner
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You are a good sport and wish you the best solutions for your problems. I am disappointed that you are not interested in my Aztek but I do understand as it is an acquired taste.
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