5th gen supercharger coming

philsey said:
URD site doesn't have that anywhere I can find. But here's what TRD publishes for their supercharged 1GR 4.0 motor. Seems reasonable to assume the Dual VVTi might surpass this.

POWER
The 1GR supercharger output is rated at 304HP @ 5,400 RPM and 334lb/ft of torque at 3,600 RPM at the flywheel

Guessing you'll know fairly soon - don't see how URD can announce without some performance numbers.

S/b interesting.
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Well they got 422 RWHP out of the tacoma engine as shown in this video, I would assume it would be higher than that.

YouTube - ‪URD Mark II Stage 3‬‏
 
For what it's worth, my 1995 T100 had a TRD supercharger on it for 100,000 miles (150,000 miles total for truck) and it ran like new when I traded it. I'm confident that the boost was relatively low, but it still made impressive power on that motor and there were no negative effects.
 
Seems like there are to many variables to predict what will happen. Personally if I had a SC I would be harder on the gas all the time. I'd also be looking for ways to up the boost so I'm pretty sure the engine wouldn't last.

I'm pretty sure if I could get a 400hp 4Runner I'd love it for the 2 years(if that) it lasted before I killed it.
 
Gadgets tacoma is an 05, I dont know how many years he as had it for sure but it's been longer than I've had mine which is coming up on 3.
 
SC Affect Insurance?

Does anyone know, if one were to have one of these upcoming SCs installed in their T4R, does that affect insurance premiums?
 
Supercharger on an 2001 4Runner Sport

I had the TRD Supercharger installed on my 2001 4Runner when it had 28k miles. I beat the everliving crap out of that thing and when I traded it in at 118k miles and it still ran like a champ. I was getting approximately 8lbs of boost pressure.

7 years of constant gas pedal to the floor and no negative affects on the motor. It is worth mentioning that I had to replace the supercharger belt 6 times in that span.
 
Has anyone discussed the possible issues with the drivetrain? Is the drivetrain capable of handling the extra power over time? Those of us with 4wd models should prob be more concerned than those with 2wd I think. Maybe I dont know what I'm talking about, but it makes sense to me
 
4ShoreRunner said:
Only if you tell them!
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:naughty:

I was hoping someone would say that. Hehehe...

But honestly, what if you actually do get in an accident (whether it's because of the extra power of the SC or not) and the insurance company finds out you have it? Does that void your coverage?
 
Insurance companies are not your friend. If the SC had an effect in damaging the vehicle in anyway, they will saddle you with all of the liability.

In the real world however, it is unlikely that they would ever know.
 
gdlaw said:
:naughty:

I was hoping someone would say that. Hehehe...

But honestly, what if you actually do get in an accident (whether it's because of the extra power of the SC or not) and the insurance company finds out you have it? Does that void your coverage?
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I think its highly dependent on your insurance company. I would call and ask them. My guess is that, as mentioned earlier, it is extremely unlikely they would ever know. And if they did, its very unlikely that it would matter. I really don't think an insurance adjuster is going to pop the hood and be like, "URD supercharger kit, huh? Welp, you're screwed". They are just there to assess the damage and I would be very suprised if they were even able to recognize parts that were not OEM. Even if they did, what's to say that particular part actually caused damage to the vehicle. If you put a Weber full of red hot charcoal in your car and it started on fire, then yeah, I understand that they could deny coverage, but car parts I think is a stretch. Any insurance company that tried to deny coverage to a aftermarket part I would be dropping immediately.

I just want to clear up a few other issues I've read about in this thread:

FWIW, I was able to insure approx. $12K worth of mods on my prior Tundra with no increase in premium. All I had to do was fax in the receipts that I paid for them to my local agent. I avoid the "big box" insurance companies. Go into your town, find a local insurance guy who is backed by someone decent, put all of your policies through them get all of the multi-policy discounts. This removes the anonyminity of the whole process and actually makes them accountable for earning your business. Then they won't tend to do things like quote you an $800 premium for insuring $500 worth of stuff. That's F-ing rediculous...Also, there was a comment made earlier that aftermarket parts degrade the value of your vehicle - In most cases this is true. You will either recognize zero or negative value for aftermarket mods - especially from a dealership. However, if it is a factory designed/dealer installed modification you should realize some value.


To address all of the what-ifs of doing a major mod to your vehicle: Look, I know everyone can think of a million reasons of why not to do it...Insurance, warranty, longevity, etc...The bottom line is if you buy from a reputible company (like URD), they are not trying to sell you something that is going to kill your car. Will a supercharger kit reduce the life of your engine? Maybe the engine will run for 400,000 miles instead of 500,000...That's a ton of miles. My point is, it is HIGHLY LIKELY the vehicle itself will wear out before the engine does. And if you plan on keeping it that long (God bless you), you are going to have to replace major components multiple times anyway - supercharger or not. Bottom line is, buy from a reputable source and drive it!! Don't worry about the what-ifs!! Life is short just do it!!

The URD kit will most likely start with, and I'm guessing here, probably somewhere in the 350-375 whp range. Trust me guys - That is PLENTY! That's in the neighborhood of 430-475 crank HP. Beyond that point, you could really be overstressing the internals of the engine and transmission. I do believe we can make 350 whp relatively safely (that means, only minor fuel system upgrades, no tranny valve-mods or anything else), but I will leave that to the pros. Again, URD will not make a kit that will damage your vehicle. They know why people buy Toyotas, and understand that they have alot at stake if they make something that reduces longevity. I have supreme confidence that all safeguards will be put into place to have a product that safely enhances performance without sacrificing drivibility or longevity. I speak on experience here too - I've used URD products on both my prior Toyotas.

Speaking of the URD S/C kit - This thing can't come soon enough. Boy is this thing pig slow in the mountains of CO. And I get to pull a trailer over Wolf Creek pass tomorrow - hope I can at least maintain the speed limit! Good news is, at least I'm still getting 6-7mpg better than my Tundra was!

That's another thing: I don't want to hear any whining about fuel economy either. My wife routinely gets 17+ mpg mostly all city driving and I got 20 mpg straight flogging it in the mountains the other day (including some 4LO trail crawling with the AC pumping) - That is VERY impressive for a full size body-on-frame solid rear axle off-road oreinted SUV. If you are looking for better than 17 mpg out of a 5th gen 4Runner you need to sell and immediately buy a hybrid or a minivan because just look around, even the soft-roader CUV's (Highlander, Explorer, CX-9, Traverse, Durango) struggle to beat 15 real world mpg (Three-Row Crossover SUV Comparison - Chevrolet Traverse vs Dodge Durango vs Ford Explorer vs Honda Pilot vs Mazda CX-9 vs Toyota Highlander - Motor Trend). Also, if you are complaining about fuel economy - you are in the wrong thread :hungry:

This is your prize for reading this far. Rant over.:girl:
 
I think its highly dependent on your insurance company. I would call and ask them. My guess is that, as mentioned earlier, it is extremely unlikely they would ever know. And if they did, its very unlikely that it would matter. I really don't think an insurance adjuster is going to pop the hood and be like, "URD supercharger kit, huh? Welp, you're screwed". They are just there to assess the damage and I would be very suprised if they were even able to recognize parts that were not OEM. Even if they did, what's to say that particular part actually caused damage to the vehicle. If you put a Weber full of red hot charcoal in your car and it started on fire, then yeah, I understand that they could deny coverage, but car parts I think is a stretch. Any insurance company that tried to deny coverage to a aftermarket part I would be dropping immediately.--OUTRNNR

First, the insurance company obviously will not cover many if not most mods--just to be clear. Second, they will deny a claim if they damn well feel like it--and a supercharger might very well make them feel like it (a factory piece does change things). Third, you wouldn't be dropping an insurance company if they denied a claim because in so doing, they are effectively dropping you.
 
Ryan F. said:
I think its highly dependent on your insurance company. I would call and ask them. My guess is that, as mentioned earlier, it is extremely unlikely they would ever know. And if they did, its very unlikely that it would matter. I really don't think an insurance adjuster is going to pop the hood and be like, "URD supercharger kit, huh? Welp, you're screwed". They are just there to assess the damage and I would be very suprised if they were even able to recognize parts that were not OEM. Even if they did, what's to say that particular part actually caused damage to the vehicle. If you put a Weber full of red hot charcoal in your car and it started on fire, then yeah, I understand that they could deny coverage, but car parts I think is a stretch. Any insurance company that tried to deny coverage to a aftermarket part I would be dropping immediately.--OUTRNNR

First, the insurance company obviously will not cover many if not most mods--just to be clear. Second, they will deny a claim if they damn well feel like it--and a supercharger might very well make them feel like it (a factory piece does change things). Third, you wouldn't be dropping an insurance company if they denied a claim because in so doing, they are effectively dropping you.
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Let me erase my long winded rant/preach reply and simply say this:

Of course the insurance company can deny your claim. All I am saying is put yourself in a position to have the most amount of leverage possible. Whether it be having documents in writing, combined policies making you a more valued customer, and knowing your insurance agent personally and having regular conversations with them. Do this and you will be less likely to have a claim denied.

That's all :)
 
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