Aftermarket Bumper vs. Hidden Winch?

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Does anybody have any reason that the aftermarket bumper is much better? Do they allow for easier clearance of larger tires (note: I don't mind trimming my stock bumper)? Obviously, the stock one is more likely to crack, etc. on rocks, but if I were planning an outing of that nature, I might just take it off and put it back on when I get back to "civilization".

I ask because I am honestly leaning toward keeping my stock bumper and adding something like the BudBuilt hide-a-wench to keep the truck looking a little "cleaner" and closer to stock. (I am an environmental scientist and sometimes drive my vehicle rather than a company one, and while the client could certainly understand a lift and bigger tires, a full-on off-road build pulling up to a job site may raise some eyebrows).

Thanks in advance, and I look forward to hearing the opinions!
 
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Stronger materials, so you can actually drag it if need be, better clearance, you can get away with larger tires with only trimming the fender a little, looks great. Plus, it offers a location for some nice lighting.
 
There are advantages to both. I have the BB hidden winch (original version) and it had been solid. Has a low key look & I have plenty of light options. I didn't need a HD bumper when I installed mine a few months ago.

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Another option could be a front mount reciever with a winch mounted on a cradle. You can then remove or have the winch whenever you needed.
 
I just installed the CBI hidden front hitch. I put a winch in a cradle and just attach it when needed. I haven't done any super heavy pulls with it, but it holds up well for my needs. Sure its not as convenient as always having a winch up front at all times, but I don't use it enough to justify the cost. Plus the CBI mount was about $240 and is pretty easy to install. And its totally hidden by the license plate.
 

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The factory bumper is just Aluminum Tube stock bolted to brackets at the frame rail ends, then the plastic bumper cover goes over it. The factory set-up is nice but is limited on approach angle (though factory angles are still nice) and very fragile when it comes to dragging on obstacles such as rocks and hard earth.

A full replacement bumper like a ShrockWorks, Demello, CBI, ect. are full replacement bumpers that offer a multitude of benefits.

+Increased Approach Angle
+Better Durability (i.e. scraping obstacles, dragging on things)
+Better front end protection (the washer bottle being one of the weak points depending on the brand, i.e SW has plates to cover the washer bottle where as Demellos typically do not)
+Solid mounting platform for accessories such as lights and winches
+Strong Recovery points due to being a direct extension of the frame
+More adaptable for body lifts (you can only do so much as the bumper skin connects at both the frame and the body and will start stretching and looking awkward)
+Better Tire clearance
-Cost
-Weight (Aluminum versions do exist, though I personally do not like Aluminum's "stickiness" on obstacles)
-More difficult installation (mainly due to the weight, usually helps to hav a second person help install it)
-Often requires supporting mods to negate weight (i.e. stronger springs & shocks and/or suspension lift kits)
-Appearance (some people don't like the heavy duty look, personally I love it)

A Hidden Winch like BB or CBI is a compromise between the strength of an aftermarket bumper and the appearance of a factory front end.

+Stronger than factory Aluminum bumper
+Typically built tough enough to stand up to a moderate front end collision
+Provides a stable platform for accessories (depending on the design, some can fit and entire winch, others are just receivers)
+Much more "stealth" looking option than a full metal bumper
+Typically cheaper than an after market bumper
+A little easier to install than an aftermarket bumper
+The winch is removable (depending on the design)
+Typically lighter & requires less supporting mods (i.e. springs & shocks)
-Does not address approach angle problems (many times I have noticed that the SW bumper has cleared inclines I would have ruined my factory front end on)
-Does not address wheel well issues that affect tire fitment (may require heavy trimming/reshaping fender wells depending on tires and how hard you wheel)
-Does not address durability issues with the factory bumper skin
-Factory recovery points can be iffy fro heavy off-road use (some members haven't had issues, others have damaged factory "tow points")
-The winch is removable (depending on the design)

It really depends on the type of vehicle you are building and your budget I guess? A hidden Winch/Receiver is probably not a bad idea for those of us who don't off-road hard in places where approach angles are going to be steeper and there's a very real risk of snagging your front end on obstacles. I don't see them as having to be either or deals, some vehicles are just not going to be driven as hard as others and so there's no reason to invest in a $1700 bumper if you're never going to fully utilize it.
 
A big reason I like having an aftermarket bumper is the extra "security" should I ever be in the middle of nowhere and hit a deer or whatever else.

Would much rather have the added protection of a steel bumper with hoops.
 
A big reason I like having an aftermarket bumper is the extra "security" should I ever be in the middle of nowhere and hit a deer or whatever else.

Would much rather have the added protection of a steel bumper with hoops.

Don't lie, you like having the aftermarket steel bumper because it looks badass. The protection is just an added plus. :)
 
I pondered this for a while as well,I was going to get a hidden winch. But after thinking it over , there are certain situations where you may scrape the front end while approaching a nasty situation,, need to push through something, or many other scenarios where a solid bumper and winch is the way to go. For that reason, I'm going with a bumper.
 
Tube bumper?

Out of curiosity: does anybody make a simple tube bumper for us 4th gens? I've seen the Addicted Off-road ones for the 3rd and earlier, and they're honestly more what I would prefer. Less weight and all the protection sounds like a win-win to me...
 
Reviving an old thread, but I saw one of these on a Taco at the auto parts store today. I thought it looked pretty clean and was wondering if there is anything like it for a 4th gen? Apparently it replaces the factor bumper that is behind the cosmetics on the front end. Would it work? Thoughts?

That's fricken sweet.
 
I wonder how hard it would be to convert to a 4th gen?

I'm not sure, but if the T4r bumper mounts to the frame the same way the Tacoma bumper mounts (I believe they share the same frame) I bet it could be done. I'm just not sure how much cutting would need to be done. That's, unfortunately, well above my pay grade though.
 
There are advantages to both. I have the BB hidden winch (original version) and it had been solid. Has a low key look & I have plenty of light options. I didn't need a HD bumper when I installed mine a few months ago.

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Is that your hidden winch vehicle? I like it. I would like to know where you got that panel around which allows for the fog light?

Which brand of hidden winch is that?

Thank you

Rich
 

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