America this week, what the hell?

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Victor_inox said:
This. Every 4th dollar is in healthcare industry. 10 years ago it was every 8th.

I see my doctor for 5 minutes and he is paid $80 for just that I was there.

I spent 4 hours in outpatient surgery and insurance bill is 60 thousand.

who can afford this? I can`t. in my neighborhood there 4 new walk in clinics opened in 5 years, not free kind.

Healthcare struggle.... my ass.
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So 4 dollar out of 10. Based on what gdp? Entitlements? Military spending. My health insurance sucks now. 2k per person deductible I don't qualify for any supplements because my wife's company offers crappy insurance. So it's the most affordable option.

There are families actually getting divorced but still living together and giving custody of the kids to the person with the lowest income so they can get better rates on great plans. I know 2 families that have done this. It's sad that this is how people are beginning to do this so they can get the best care available for their kids.

Let's not forget justice John Roberts rewrote a small part of the ACA to make it "constitutional". He said it was a tax but it can't be a tax because a tax had to originate in the House of Representatives. They wouldn't pass the bill so Obama made them work directly with the senate on the senate bill. (Lack of conservatives elected). So it couldn't be a tax. There for that would make it against the constitution. But he rewrote just enough of it to make it passable. (Justices writing laws instead of interpreting them) unconstitutionally as well. And then you fine the tax payer ever year they don't have insurance. (The tax). And exempt new illegal aliens from the tax. How's that fair. They get the other benefits.


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-JD- said:
So which one is it? did the ACA increase the rate of rising healthcare costs, or did it slow it?

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You're once again twisting the argument into a debate that suits your argument, not the point I was originally making.
Either way I think I'm done debating these issues with you. I don't think any amount of data or facts will sway your position. You've demonstrated your extreme confirmation bias across multiple issues posting links from sites like infowars and tabloid newspapers. So at this point I feel like I'm wasting my time.
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Been there......was just wasting my time.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
So 4 dollar out of 10. Based on what gdp? Entitlements? Military spending. My health insurance sucks now. 2k per person deductible I don't qualify for any supplements because my wife's company offers crappy insurance. So it's the most affordable option.

There are families actually getting divorced but still living together and giving custody of the kids to the person with the lowest income so they can get better rates on great plans. I know 2 families that have done this. It's sad that this is how people are beginning to do this so they can get the best care available for their kids.

Let's not forget justice John Roberts rewrote a small part of the ACA to make it "constitutional". He said it was a tax but it can't be a tax because a tax had to originate in the House of Representatives. They wouldn't pass the bill so Obama made them work directly with the senate on the senate bill. (Lack of conservatives elected). So it couldn't be a tax. There for that would make it against the constitution. But he rewrote just enough of it to make it passable. (Justices writing laws instead of interpreting them) unconstitutionally as well. And then you fine the tax payer ever year they don't have insurance. (The tax). And exempt new illegal aliens from the tax. How's that fair. They get the other benefits.


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Every 4th dollar out or the 10 is 25%, check your arithmetics...
don` blame ACA, blame corporate greed. Also i`d love to see any proof that illegals receiving Health care benefits.SS # required to get any meaningful service these days. Last time I checked you can`t get SS without been born here or naturalized. You can`t even get state ID nor driver's license, no ID no service.
 
In not questioning the math. Bye 4 out of 10 is 40%. Just saying. I am asking what the 10 is based on.

1 out of 4 is 25.
2 out of 8 is 25
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All along the west coast you do not need to show ID to get a DL

In California they actually made the law to make it ok to get a DL while being illegal.


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Victor_inox said:
Every 4th dollar out or the 10 is 25%, check your arithmetics...

don` blame ACA, blame corporate greed. Also i`d love to see any proof that illegals receiving Health care benefits.SS # required to get any meaningful service these days. Last time I checked you can`t get SS without been born here or naturalized. You can`t even get state ID nor driver's license, no ID no service.
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Every 1/4 of 10$ is 25%. Every $4 of $10 is 40% subtleties.


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Thefishguy77 said:
Difference between Canadian and American terminology?


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I said every 4th never said 40% . take 100 pennies mark every 4th, you should get 25 pennies in US or Canada. You mileage may vary, your logic is unknown to me. 1/4th is maybe easier for fractional system.So let`s stick with that.
 
Victor_inox said:
This. Every 4th dollar is in healthcare industry. 10 years ago it was every 8th.

I see my doctor for 5 minutes and he is paid $80 for just that I was there.

I spent 4 hours in outpatient surgery and insurance bill is 60 thousand.

who can afford this? I can`t. in my neighborhood there 4 new walk in clinics opened in 5 years, not free kind.

Healthcare struggle.... my ass.
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So I am just quoting you to make sure You and I are on the same page. Do you see where you said every 4th dollar out of 10 goes to health care.

Did you make a mistake.


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Well ThorInc. I agree with your math. But victor had bad math. If you can't see that and agree that he made a mistake then I don't know what to say.


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This is starting to make more sense to me now.
 
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