Battery Replacement

A Tad off topic but was wondering if anyone uses those jump start power packs and has had experience with them. Some get pretty positive reviews. Was thinking of getting one for emergency back up power. Also curious how long they might hold a charge being stored in a car subject to hot/cold temp swings. Even a new battery can fail at a bad time.
Pros/Cons?

I bought the NOCO Genius Boost GB40 and am very happy with it. I have jumped two cars with it and it worked perfectly each time even when the NOCO only 50% charge left on it. I like that you can cross the leads accidentally and its still safe. Its small and compact and definitely something I would want in my emergency kit. It also charges up my phone/tablet. I do have to remember to take it out every 2 months to recharge it to full power even if it sits idle. The GB40 is rated to jump a v6 but had I to do it again, I would probably get the GB70 for boosting bigger engines and running devices with a higher draw like a small air compressor.
 
A Tad off topic but was wondering if anyone uses those jump start power packs and has had experience with them. Some get pretty positive reviews. Was thinking of getting one for emergency back up power. Also curious how long they might hold a charge being stored in a car subject to hot/cold temp swings. Even a new battery can fail at a bad time.
Pros/Cons?

i have a noco gb70. Started my Supercharged Hemi.. Battery in that was dead as can be. I had to start it to move the passengers seat forward to get to the battery. Most of the lithium powered packs are tiny and should hold charge a long time.
 
Battery size I used - EP-34R (AGM)

Which group size are you guys buying for the Sears Diehard batteries? I used their selector and is showed 8 options.

I installed the 34R AGM Diehard in my 2012 TE, in Fall of 2016. It's been fine. Current price online showed $166, I think it was a bit less back then, but everything used to be cheaper...

FWIW, YMMV.

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A Tad off topic but was wondering if anyone uses those jump start power packs and has had experience with them. Some get pretty positive reviews. Was thinking of getting one for emergency back up power. Also curious how long they might hold a charge being stored in a car subject to hot/cold temp swings. Even a new battery can fail at a bad time.
Pros/Cons?

I have 2 of the one they sell at Costco. I bought one when our battery in the RX was dead (important only because it's essentially the same engine as the 4runner). Out of the box with only half a charge it had no problem firing up like it would with a full battery. Worked so well I bought a second one for my 4runner. It has plenty of juice to start a 4runner with a completely dead battery - probably even without a battery if it would run that way.

Worked so well I bought a second one for my own 4runner. It's lighter than the jumper cables I have - and a lot more convenient too.

They work very well for new vehicles because the lithium batteries can provide a lot of amps for a short duration. And fuel injection vehicles start very quickly. They're probably not ideal for starting older cars that may be flooded and need to crank for a while.

I've been waiting for Dewalt to sell me a jumper kit for my 20/60v batteries.
 
Consumer reports Group 24/24F & Group 35 battery ratings

Kinda seems like the ratings are all over the place every year. Maybe it is luck of the draw, hope you get one from a good batch that was filled and charged optimally and timely.:shrug:
 
Two of the batteries, the Everstart and Duralast 24F's are the same battery re-labeled and sell for $90 and $110. $20 more for the same battery because people think Autozone must make a better battery than Walmart..........don't be fooled.
 
Two of the batteries, the Everstart and Duralast 24F's are the same battery re-labeled and sell for $90 and $110. $20 more for the same battery because people think Autozone must make a better battery than Walmart..........don't be fooled.

None of these guys make their own batteries anyways...

The Everstart Maxx (Yellow colored label) is a 5 year warranty battery made by Johnson controls... probably one of my favorite "regular" automotive replacement batts. Really good battery.

The Everstart RED label is not the same quality... I would actually avoid that one. The internal construction isn't as good.

Alternately... The Costco Interstate battery is another good option, but they did go from a 5 year battery to a 3 year battery. There is some reading to do on that but I forgot the details. Costco has great service regarding these things so I still buy.

Even across the same manufacture (like Johnson controls), they have different grades. Always look for a 5 year battery as they are generally made better. Generally supported with a warranty like 3 year replacement, 2 year pro-rated.
 
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I've always had very good results with Duralast Gold batteries. Last time I bought one it came with a 7 year warranty, not sure what they come with now. I never had one fail before it's normal life and would buy one again.
 
"Ancient"? Is there something better? Sure, but will an AGM outlast 2 or 3 LA batteries? Hm. Even if it did, I don't want an 8 YO battery.

As to "tending" to fail without warning, well, that's a bit exaggerated. I haven't had that sort of failure in many, many years but I check it, keep the water level up, and start paying attention to it at 4 years. OTOH, I'm just a DD.

Lead acid is ancient. I have a 350z that I Literally never drive (like never drive, in fact I parked it at my parents house when I went to college out of state, and never went back to get it and its been sitting in their garage since 2011). I put in a AGM battery, and everytime I go visit my parents, it starts right up after a quick charge. Since then, I replace all my lead acids in my vehicles when they die (usually at 2 years) with an AGM.

Seriously, buy AGM and don't look back. No mess, no fuss, and always jumpable (unless the battery was damaged).
 
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A Tad off topic but was wondering if anyone uses those jump start power packs and has had experience with them. Some get pretty positive reviews. Was thinking of getting one for emergency back up power. Also curious how long they might hold a charge being stored in a car subject to hot/cold temp swings. Even a new battery can fail at a bad time.
Pros/Cons?

I have had an antigravity XP-1 for a couple of years. Still going strong. Also use as a UPS on my motorcycle nav. Also good as a light duty charging station. Prices vary over time so set up a camelcamel on amazon if you are a cheapskate like me. Lifeline makes the best batteries on the market.
 
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I and others use the odyssey in vehicles that sit for several months and have the trickle chargers on.. these do last a long time expensive but with an expensive 200K vehicle $260 is NBD..

on my other daily drivers the costco batteries do work good last about yrs for me. reasonable costs...good warranty.

I do not recommend any diehard batteries they break internally crap...

family member installed 2 yrs ago the autozone battery .. sudden death internal failure no power . died when engine was hot .. came out of store NO crank.. I jumped it and we went to AZ and they put in another new battery $0 cost. So I would not use auto store batteries ...
 
IMO...The NOCO's look like some of the best jump starters made.
The NOCO GB150 is marketed as delivering 4,000 Amps!!!. This take apart video on youtube shows it to use a 3S 8,000mAh battery pack.
Notice the size of the unit and ask yourself what sized battery could they possibly fit in a phone sized jump starter?
If they work, great. Reliable? I wouldn't bet my family's life on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LurYulow0Y
 
so the battery is what they list in their specs for the battery, makes sense. the 4000A is instant peak, it's listed at 22,500 J3S which is pretty close to the load tests (450-500A) that I'm seeing from a quick google

the 150 can start large cold diesel engines, if the price isn't too much it would be a very reliable pack for a 4.0L gas engine

you can find plenty of videos of the GB40 starting V6 or V8 engines without the battery even installed, if you want peace of mind jump up to the GB70 or GB150

if you want to see something really crazy with these little jump packs, jonathan hanson used a few to field weld and also to power a DC wire-feed welder. that's insane!
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http://www.exploringoverland.com/overland-tech-travel/2014/4/9/the-micro-start-xp-1.html

also in that link you'll see a video of him starting a tacoma with the battery disconnected (the XP-1 wouldn't start the 300D though with battery disconnected)

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I replaced the battery on my 2013 Limited with an Interstate MT7-34R. Maybe overkill for some, but I do a lot of driving on washboard roads so I wanted their AGM. It is also advertised to handle both deep discharge and cranking, which is desirable since I run multiple radios and they can pull 13 amps while transmitting.

https://www.interstatebatteries.com/products/mt7-34r?productLine=auto&subcategoryKey=&ignorecategoryid=true

As far as jump packs, I have the Anti-gravity XP-10 (and I second what e60ral said about avoiding counterfeits)
I keep it in the truck year round. It seems to hold a charge for well over 3 months.

I have started the 4runner with it with the battery disconnected as a test. On 3 occasions I have killed the battery with radios or air compressor and it performed fine each time. Using the pack is much easier than fooling with cables. You attach the clamps, then plug them into the pack, check the lights, and then crank the vehicle.
 
I replaced the battery on my 2013 Limited with an Interstate MT7-34R. Maybe overkill for some, but I do a lot of driving on washboard roads so I wanted their AGM. It is also advertised to handle both deep discharge and cranking, which is desirable since I run multiple radios and they can pull 13 amps while transmitting.

https://www.interstatebatteries.com...ne=auto&subcategoryKey=&ignorecategoryid=true

As far as jump packs, I have the Anti-gravity XP-10 (and I second what e60ral said about avoiding counterfeits)
I keep it in the truck year round. It seems to hold a charge for well over 3 months.

I have started the 4runner with it with the battery disconnected as a test. On 3 occasions I have killed the battery with radios or air compressor and it performed fine each time. Using the pack is much easier than fooling with cables. You attach the clamps, then plug them into the pack, check the lights, and then crank the vehicle.
Any recommendation on where to buy this battery?

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Just replaced 6 year old Die Hard Platinum with Northstar Group 31 Marine (main)and Northstar Group 34 (aux)

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Can't say anything negative about the Die Hards and if they were still available I would have bought them again.

Also have an Interstate that will be going into the boat in the spring.

Almost positive the diehard platinums were Northstar batteries. I was sad to them discontinued from Sears also.
 

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