CB Radio suggestions?

Your name told everyone you would like it even before you posted! The question is whether or not the new underpowered Taco has enough appeal to draw you back to the dark side! LOL

Negative. I prefer the Vorcha Battlecruiser "Natalia" to the B'rel Bird of Prey "Chorizo".

...and that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is my 600th post. No longer at post level <500, [MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION]... :party:
 
Random, did I see somewhere on here that there is a cb radio that has a removable handheld device on a base that stays in the vehicle? I've been looking around for it but just keep coming accross the midland interchangable battery option.
 
Ya know, its pointless to go with a ham radio,

I stopped reading right here and summarily judged you as a careless and dangerous cancer to our Off-Roading hobby.

HAM radio has numerous uses, benefits and advantages over all forms of communications, but more importantly HAM radio is a life saver the world over. What you've just done by making your post is not only dangerous to anyone who gives your post any credibility but it's arrogant dismissiveness without any basis in fact.

As a retired Communications Officer for the United States Army, I've served in numerous capacities for the Warfighter over a long career that enabled Army Unit Commanders to Command and Control their forces on the battlefield, unified communications plans that coordinated efforts brought resources to bear for our troops in contact (TIC). The real benefit to HAM radio is for our community to THINK about potential problems they may face, develop communications plans and RESPOND when an event happens. I've said it a million times before, DEVELOP YOUR P.A.C.E. PLANS!

PRIMARY
ALTERNATE
CONTINGENCY
EMERGENCY

PRIMARY: Cell phone
ALTERNATE: CB
CONTINGENCY: HAM Radio
EMERGENCY: SPOT Device

I can make cases for any ordering of the items above, I can make cases for inclusion of other technologies and sub-technologies of HAM radio but the point stands that development of a PACE plan requires forethought and a careful approach to what you may encounter in extreme environments. APRS is a great positional reporting tool available for all HAM radio enthusiasts and users in Colorado. So much so, that Colorado Off-Road Rescue and Recovery is beginning to mandate HAM Radio and APRS capabilities for teams deploying out to remote and austere environments to rescue stuck and disabled off-roaders. That organization is the very definition of a successful implementation of HAM Radio and it's capabilities.

So I say to you, reconsider your words - they have dangerous implications. CB radios are a neat toy - but they are only POINT to POINT and your communications are not guaranteed to reach anyone. HAM Radio offers incredible variety and capability to the serious and not-so-serious off-road enthusiast in the case of a serious and life threatening event.

To those reading my rant, I emplore you to put thought and consideration into your communications plans as you traverse the wondrous world, know that there are still cellular blackspots in this country and many times you might be without standard communications services.
 
Random, did I see somewhere on here that there is a cb radio that has a removable handheld device on a base that stays in the vehicle? I've been looking around for it but just keep coming accross the midland interchangable battery option.

No - you saw that as a motorola commercial radio that was available once upon a time. Same capability could be available for HAM radio handhelds, but I recommend a good dual band / quad band radio to run crossband repeating and hand carry your hand held to maintain good coverage several miles out from your vehicle.
 
I stopped reading right here and summarily judged you as a careless and dangerous cancer to our Off-Roading hobby

How about you get off your high effin' horse there, pal? Your very first sentence is the problem with people like you, you don't read the whole conversation and want to open your piehole without knowing what was even said!

If you actually read the WHOLE post, or at the very least, the FIRST SENTENCE, it would explain EXACTLY where I was coming from. For your reference, I will now re-post this 2+ year old conversation:

Ya know, its pointless to go with a ham radio, if all you are looking for is communicating on the trails with a group.

And, as for your high and mighty attitude of being a retired communications officer in the army, whooptie fawkin' doo! I was the training officer for Army MARS way back when, and ran the emergency nets between Ft. Shafter and Oahu Civil Defense, does ANY of this matter when the conversation is about cb vs. ham on the trails?

While there are more folks now than ever using 2M on the trails, almost all offroad clubs still use cb's for trail communications, so buying a ham radio does you no good. And if you say that modding the radio will get you to cb, I'll call you an even bigger putz than you already seem to be! Being a ham, you'll already know that its illegal to operate out of band on a ham radio, and spending several hundred bucks on one just to mod it for cb is just plain dumb.

Now, come back with more attitude and drivel on how I'm such a dangerous cancer to the offroading community, asshat! I've done plenty enough for the offroad community, and its always people like you who seem to be know-it-alls on every subject.

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How about you get off your high effin' horse there, pal? Your very first sentence is the problem with people like you, you don't read the whole conversation and want to open your piehole without knowing what was even said!

If you actually read the WHOLE post, or at the very least, the FIRST SENTENCE, it would explain EXACTLY where I was coming from. For your reference, I will now re-post this 2+ year old conversation:

Ya know, its pointless to go with a ham radio, if all you are looking for is communicating on the trails with a group.

And, as for your high and mighty attitude of being a retired communications officer in the army, whooptie fawkin' doo! I was the training officer for Army MARS way back when, and ran the emergency nets between Ft. Shafter and Oahu Civil Defense, does ANY of this matter when the conversation is about cb vs. ham on the trails?

While there are more folks now than ever using 2M on the trails, almost all offroad clubs still use cb's for trail communications, so buying a ham radio does you no good. And if you say that modding the radio will get you to cb, I'll call you an even bigger putz than you already seem to be! Being a ham, you'll already know that its illegal to operate out of band on a ham radio, and spending several hundred bucks on one just to mod it for cb is just plain dumb.

Now, come back with more attitude and drivel on how I'm such a dangerous cancer to the offroading community, asshat! I've done plenty enough for the offroad community, and its always people like you who seem to be know-it-alls on every subject.

middle-finger-smiley.png

My point is validated.
 
How about you get off your high effin' horse there, pal? Your very first sentence is the problem with people like you, you don't read the whole conversation and want to open your piehole without knowing what was even said!

If you actually read the WHOLE post, or at the very least, the FIRST SENTENCE, it would explain EXACTLY where I was coming from. For your reference, I will now re-post this 2+ year old conversation:

Ya know, its pointless to go with a ham radio, if all you are looking for is communicating on the trails with a group.

And, as for your high and mighty attitude of being a retired communications officer in the army, whooptie fawkin' doo! I was the training officer for Army MARS way back when, and ran the emergency nets between Ft. Shafter and Oahu Civil Defense, does ANY of this matter when the conversation is about cb vs. ham on the trails?

While there are more folks now than ever using 2M on the trails, almost all offroad clubs still use cb's for trail communications, so buying a ham radio does you no good. And if you say that modding the radio will get you to cb, I'll call you an even bigger putz than you already seem to be! Being a ham, you'll already know that its illegal to operate out of band on a ham radio, and spending several hundred bucks on one just to mod it for cb is just plain dumb.

Now, come back with more attitude and drivel on how I'm such a dangerous cancer to the offroading community, asshat! I've done plenty enough for the offroad community, and its always people like you who seem to be know-it-alls on every subject.

middle-finger-smiley.png

I stopped reading right here and summarily judged you as a careless and dangerous cancer to our Off-Roading hobby.

HAM radio has numerous uses, benefits and advantages over all forms of communications, but more importantly HAM radio is a life saver the world over. What you've just done by making your post is not only dangerous to anyone who gives your post any credibility but it's arrogant dismissiveness without any basis in fact.

As a retired Communications Officer for the United States Army, I've served in numerous capacities for the Warfighter over a long career that enabled Army Unit Commanders to Command and Control their forces on the battlefield, unified communications plans that coordinated efforts brought resources to bear for our troops in contact (TIC). The real benefit to HAM radio is for our community to THINK about potential problems they may face, develop communications plans and RESPOND when an event happens. I've said it a million times before, DEVELOP YOUR P.A.C.E. PLANS!

PRIMARY
ALTERNATE
CONTINGENCY
EMERGENCY

PRIMARY: Cell phone
ALTERNATE: CB
CONTINGENCY: HAM Radio
EMERGENCY: SPOT Device

I can make cases for any ordering of the items above, I can make cases for inclusion of other technologies and sub-technologies of HAM radio but the point stands that development of a PACE plan requires forethought and a careful approach to what you may encounter in extreme environments. APRS is a great positional reporting tool available for all HAM radio enthusiasts and users in Colorado. So much so, that Colorado Off-Road Rescue and Recovery is beginning to mandate HAM Radio and APRS capabilities for teams deploying out to remote and austere environments to rescue stuck and disabled off-roaders. That organization is the very definition of a successful implementation of HAM Radio and it's capabilities.

So I say to you, reconsider your words - they have dangerous implications. CB radios are a neat toy - but they are only POINT to POINT and your communications are not guaranteed to reach anyone. HAM Radio offers incredible variety and capability to the serious and not-so-serious off-road enthusiast in the case of a serious and life threatening event.

To those reading my rant, I emplore you to put thought and consideration into your communications plans as you traverse the wondrous world, know that there are still cellular blackspots in this country and many times you might be without standard communications services.

Guys. Cool it please. Remember to attack the post, never the poster.
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I stopped reading right here and summarily judged you as a careless and dangerous cancer to our Off-Roading hobby.

I'm a bit surprised by this response considering what was posted was pretty reasonable:

Ya know, its pointless to go with a ham radio, if all you are looking for is communicating on the trails with a group. More than likely, none of them will have a ham license, and even if one or two do, it becomes quite complicated to have someone relay between ham and cb.

I'm a licensed HAM myself and I'm wondering what is wrong with this statement? He's right. Since getting my t4r I've been investigating local off road clubs and those with radio requirements spec CB, not HAM. It's unfortunate since HAM is far more capable but that's the facts. Calling someone a cancer for stating the unfortunate reality is pretty extreme.


HAM radio has numerous uses, benefits and advantages over all forms of communications, but more importantly HAM radio is a life saver the world over. What you've just done by making your post is not only dangerous to anyone who gives your post any credibility but it's arrogant dismissiveness without any basis in fact.

As a retired Communications Officer for the United States Army, I've served in numerous capacities for the Warfighter over a long career that enabled Army Unit Commanders to Command and Control their forces on the battlefield, unified communications plans that coordinated efforts brought resources to bear for our troops in contact (TIC). The real benefit to HAM radio is for our community to THINK about potential problems they may face, develop communications plans and RESPOND when an event happens. I've said it a million times before, DEVELOP YOUR P.A.C.E. PLANS!

PRIMARY
ALTERNATE
CONTINGENCY
EMERGENCY

PRIMARY: Cell phone
ALTERNATE: CB
CONTINGENCY: HAM Radio
EMERGENCY: SPOT Device

I can make cases for any ordering of the items above, I can make cases for inclusion of other technologies and sub-technologies of HAM radio but the point stands that development of a PACE plan requires forethought and a careful approach to what you may encounter in extreme environments. APRS is a great positional reporting tool available for all HAM radio enthusiasts and users in Colorado. So much so, that Colorado Off-Road Rescue and Recovery is beginning to mandate HAM Radio and APRS capabilities for teams deploying out to remote and austere environments to rescue stuck and disabled off-roaders. That organization is the very definition of a successful implementation of HAM Radio and it's capabilities.

So I say to you, reconsider your words - they have dangerous implications. CB radios are a neat toy - but they are only POINT to POINT and your communications are not guaranteed to reach anyone. HAM Radio offers incredible variety and capability to the serious and not-so-serious off-road enthusiast in the case of a serious and life threatening event.

To those reading my rant, I emplore you to put thought and consideration into your communications plans as you traverse the wondrous world, know that there are still cellular blackspots in this country and many times you might be without standard communications services.

Again as a HAM, you're right it is light years ahead of CB, but with my local off road clubs I'm sure no one is listening on HAM because they use CB. I'll probably end up with both in the event I join a local club because I don't want to be without my HAM and perhaps I can encourage others to get licensed as well. One thing I'm sure of though is calling people a dangerous cancer isn't going to endear anyone to the HAM radio community and will solicit the kind of response you received.
 
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How is everyone mounting their CB mics? I want something clean looking and I'm hesitant to start drilling screws in my dashboard. Not really interested in using an adhesive mount either.
 
For those mounting their antennas to their hatch, are you getting high SWR readings? I've a Cobra 75 with a firestik antenna mounted to a diamond k400 mount on the hatch and my SWR reader reads high on all channels. I've changed the ground location and double checked that it is all together correctly.
 
Would you be willing to post a pic of your set up or send it to me in an email?

Sure, I can post it here. I got very simple setup, easily removable. I was looking for a good place for a radio, but it either interfered with controls or required some cutting and drilling. So I settled to this: .

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When my CB in Active use I put it in cupholder. Other than that it sits on a hook. This is my radio close up:

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By the way I impressed with 3M hooks, it survived hot summer, cold winter and endless bumps on roads and trails. And I can remove hook without any residue if I decide to put my radio in different place.

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For those mounting their antennas to their hatch, are you getting high SWR readings? I've a Cobra 75 with a firestik antenna mounted to a diamond k400 mount on the hatch and my SWR reader reads high on all channels. I've changed the ground location and double checked that it is all together correctly.

I believe I have a similar setup. I have a smiley faced SWR from 1 to 40 but it doesn't go higher than 1.7. I know you said you double checked the ground but what kind of coax are you using?

Reason I ask is that I have the fire-ring version and it needs to be connected in the K400 mount a certain way, the raised, white plastic bushing ring has to face the mount either from below or above. Also, I noticed that the fire-ring coax ground ring did not make contact with the K400 mount and had to put a metal washer to have it make contact for a good ground.
 
Sure, I can post it here. I got very simple setup, easily removable. I was looking for a good place for a radio, but it either interfered with controls or required some cutting and drilling. So I settled to this: .

36675552060_0ae228ffbd_o.jpg


When my CB in Active use I put it in cupholder. Other than that it sits on a hook. This is my radio close up:

36675551870_4268d4ee50_o.jpg


By the way I impressed with 3M hooks, it survived hot summer, cold winter and endless bumps on roads and trails. And I can remove hook without any residue if I decide to put my radio in different place.

36675551970_a993260811_o.jpg

Thanks! I may just end up going this route as well.
 

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