SKINUM
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Sounds like u will have to test our theory as no one else seems to know or considers the possibility.
Compiled: FJ Springs Lift Info for 4th gen
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Sounds like u will have to test our theory as no one else seems to know or considers the possibility.
kyle_uran
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Thanks for the input. Wondering if the FJ springs and 5100s at 2.5 will put it even higher or level? I rear somewhere to expect .5" from the front springs.
Am i wrong to assume that would equal 3" and if at 1.75 setting + .5, i'd be at 2.25" lift?
If you are running FJ coils on front and back you will get the same rake.
With the heavier V8, FJ front coil, and 2.5 setting on the shocks you should get 3" of lift. 3" is that borderline area of the stock uca's being able to keep your alignment in spec. If you want that much lift and you have stock uca's try it and see if it aligns, if not then you'll either need to drop it down to the 1.75 setting it get uca's to compensate for the lift. No matter what setting you have your shocks on the FJ coils will give you. 5" of extra lift.
LandCruiser
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I do, too.
I have TE springs I wouldn't mind transplanting into a 4th gen.
I'll get on it when I get back to CO this winter.
Sorry this is a long-ish one, but I had a few questions, as this spring/shock swap is DEFINITELY happening in my future.
1.) FJ Bilsteins vs. Bilstein 5100. Is the 5100 a much better shock, or do people just like it because it's adjustable?
2.) I read that along with the basic FJ coils/shocks/struts swap, a front spacer (toytec 1/2" or cornfed 1" for V8 4x4) is recommended to "level" the car (which I want, and level referring to the running boards parallel with the ground). With the 5100's, is the spacer still necessary, or does the adjustability of the 5100 replace this? This is assuming no spacer on the rear.
Basically, I'm wondering if it's really worth it to spend a little extra on the 5100's. I don't mind spending the extra if they really are an all around better shock, just curious as I spend hours reading through threads. I'm not looking for huge lift, but enough for fun, and a decent improvement in ride quality.
If only I concentrated this well at my day job lol.
1.) FJ Bilsteins vs. Bilstein 5100. Is the 5100 a much better shock, or do people just like it because it's adjustable?
2.) I read that along with the basic FJ coils/shocks/struts swap, a front spacer (toytec 1/2" or cornfed 1" for V8 4x4) is recommended to "level" the car (which I want, and level referring to the running boards parallel with the ground). With the 5100's, is the spacer still necessary, or does the adjustability of the 5100 replace this? This is assuming no spacer on the rear.
Basically, I'm wondering if it's really worth it to spend a little extra on the 5100's. I don't mind spending the extra if they really are an all around better shock, just curious as I spend hours reading through threads. I'm not looking for huge lift, but enough for fun, and a decent improvement in ride quality.
If only I concentrated this well at my day job lol.
5100s are adjustable, so no spacer needed.
FJ struts need a spacer. If you get TRD struts from an FJ, I believe they are similar to the 5100s but without the adjustability
Cool, totally clears it up. Thank you!
Like I said, just questions that pop in my head as I'm reading through all the swap threads. It sounds like it's better to spend a little extra on the 5100's, unless I can find a set of FJ's cheap with low miles.
That is, if what you say is true...:wacko:
Like I said, just questions that pop in my head as I'm reading through all the swap threads. It sounds like it's better to spend a little extra on the 5100's, unless I can find a set of FJ's cheap with low miles.
That is, if what you say is true...:wacko:
T4rcharlie
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Fj swap
Just throwing this out there for thoughts. Could aftermarket "oe" replacements ment to be used in the 07-09 fj be used in the 4 runner? Or does it have to the the actual dealer parts for the swap? 2005 v8 sport. Current xreas system. Thanks
Just throwing this out there for thoughts. Could aftermarket "oe" replacements ment to be used in the 07-09 fj be used in the 4 runner? Or does it have to the the actual dealer parts for the swap? 2005 v8 sport. Current xreas system. Thanks
I've read a few threads about aftermarket oe FJ springs (moog) with mixed reviews. Not sure about xreas since I don't have it.
I decided to stay patient and wait for used FJ springs. Pretended I was interested in FJs on the FJ forum for a few weeks and got some there.
Joined the club today. Have some 8125s being built but decided to throw a CL special(14' FJ springs and 5100s) on in the meantime. Previous owner had the front on the third highest clip. I reduced that to the second clip when I had them apart to clean. Ride is great. Going to measure fender heights tomorrow.
SD03LTD4x4
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The shocks on my 03 4runner are toast and I bought four 5100s as a replacement. My question is, at the same time I want to level it out a little bit (4x4 V6).
As far I understand I can do it one of two ways.
Option #1 - set the 5100 to 0.85" setting and use the stock 4runner front/rear spring.
Option #2 - set the 5100 to the lowest setting and use a FJC front spring and stock 4runner rear spring.
Has anyone ever done option #2 (FJC front coil and stock 4runner coil in the rear)? I was thinking this might make for a stiffer front and the rear will be bouncy.
But at the same time I was thinking the 0.85" setting with the stock coil might also firm up the front as compared to the rear.
As far I understand I can do it one of two ways.
Option #1 - set the 5100 to 0.85" setting and use the stock 4runner front/rear spring.
Option #2 - set the 5100 to the lowest setting and use a FJC front spring and stock 4runner rear spring.
Has anyone ever done option #2 (FJC front coil and stock 4runner coil in the rear)? I was thinking this might make for a stiffer front and the rear will be bouncy.
But at the same time I was thinking the 0.85" setting with the stock coil might also firm up the front as compared to the rear.
pjbrownva
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Do you get on-road improvements. MPG?
So, I'm not trying to spoil the party... :fish:
But I have a couple of serious questions about the FJ coil swap with shock upgrades & lifts discussed in this thread...
First let me say that I get many of the reasons why a coil swap and lift are good.
------ Benefits ---------
• I get that a lift gives you better ground clearance...
• and there are real benefits from that, especially for off-road...,
• and that a good lift can give you more wheel travel,
• which is also good for off road...
• and you ride higher, so you can sit high on your perch...
• and see better and further in traffic...
• and look down on all the boring stock trucks and lowly cars :car:
• and you can run bigger tires too!!!
• and your truck is now customized...
• so it looks tricked-out and keeewel...
• and you can hold your (ahem!) package as you drive... :lalala:
• and no one can see what you're doing. :becky:
I get that, and I'm not trying to take any of that away from anyone.
--------- QUESTIONS ---------
So, here are my questions:...
:horn: :horn: :horn:
Q1: Will an FJ coil swap & shock change with a lift decrease the on road or high way ride quality?
Q2: What about the impact to on-road handling? (Better, worse, no change)
Q3: Noise?
Q4: Fuel Milage?
Q5: Towing? (I pull a 4000 lb boat / trailer combo locally and occasionally 1200 miles round-trip on the highway).
Usually (but not always)... nothing comes for free.
So I'm genuinely asking what are the down sides to a mild lift from the mods discussed in this thread?
I'd like to determine if this type of swap would be right for an on-road, highway & city driving, wanna-be, poser like myself :becky:
-- not by looking at just the benefits, but by also understanding the downsides and drawbacks -- other than time and money...
and I'd be thankful if someone can help me understand the drawbacks and tradeoffs. :hail:
-Phil
So, I'm not trying to spoil the party... :fish:
But I have a couple of serious questions about the FJ coil swap with shock upgrades & lifts discussed in this thread...
First let me say that I get many of the reasons why a coil swap and lift are good.
------ Benefits ---------
• I get that a lift gives you better ground clearance...
• and there are real benefits from that, especially for off-road...,
• and that a good lift can give you more wheel travel,
• which is also good for off road...
• and you ride higher, so you can sit high on your perch...
• and see better and further in traffic...
• and look down on all the boring stock trucks and lowly cars :car:
• and you can run bigger tires too!!!
• and your truck is now customized...
• so it looks tricked-out and keeewel...
• and you can hold your (ahem!) package as you drive... :lalala:
• and no one can see what you're doing. :becky:
I get that, and I'm not trying to take any of that away from anyone.
--------- QUESTIONS ---------
So, here are my questions:...
:horn: :horn: :horn:
Q1: Will an FJ coil swap & shock change with a lift decrease the on road or high way ride quality?
Q2: What about the impact to on-road handling? (Better, worse, no change)
Q3: Noise?
Q4: Fuel Milage?
Q5: Towing? (I pull a 4000 lb boat / trailer combo locally and occasionally 1200 miles round-trip on the highway).
Usually (but not always)... nothing comes for free.
So I'm genuinely asking what are the down sides to a mild lift from the mods discussed in this thread?
I'd like to determine if this type of swap would be right for an on-road, highway & city driving, wanna-be, poser like myself :becky:
-- not by looking at just the benefits, but by also understanding the downsides and drawbacks -- other than time and money...
and I'd be thankful if someone can help me understand the drawbacks and tradeoffs. :hail:
-Phil
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Partial response... I just installed 2011 FJ springs with the struts/shocks that came with them. Came off a TRD FJ. Added Toytec front spacer.
Ride is firmer in a good way. Less body role and it corners a lot better on road. No extra noise but hard to tell since I have the Borla exhaust on a V8.
I just did this on my 2004 v8 4x4. I don't know what the shocks came off of, I think a '14 trd taco. I installed them with a 1" actuall, 2" lift spacer. My front fender gap went from aproxamatly 4.5" in the front, to 8" on the drivers side, and 8.5" on the pass side. Should I swap the shocks from R to L, to fix that 1/2" gap difference? Or should I leave it?
There is a left and right to the springs. I initially put them on backwards and created 1/2" difference in front, 1" difference in back. After I swapped it, I had 1/8" difference in front, 1/2" in back which I think is par for the course.
pjbrownva
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Thank you S4TA... The Borla on a V8 sounds fun!
I'm actually referring to the front left and right sides, I left the back stock. My left is 1/2" taller that the right(drivers), so I'm wondering if I should swap the springs out.
The back springs are the same. Front has the different left vs right. Having the front off, through off my rear.
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