Going Bigger - 5th Gen Tire Fitment Guide

[Trail-AMMO]

Hey guys I've got LT275/70R17 BFG KO2s and just went from the standard Trail wheels to the TRD wheels. I'm getting rubbing on the front mud flaps with a lift. Question: If I remove the mud flaps will I notice more rocks/mud/dirt/dust hitting the body of the car? How functional are these stock mud flaps? Thanks


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Pretty easy to find out....

Step one drive your truck to a parking lot with some mud / puddles.

Step two drive through mud.

Step three get out and see if there is any indication of said mud on intended removal area. (On the inside of the mud flaps)

Step four report back your findings.

Or.... I can just tell you yes, especially with a lift. The more exposed the tire the greater chance of rocks ect hitting the body.

-A

 

[e60ral]

and also hitting other people

keep your mud flaps, they aren't just for you

 

[Boyds4Runner]

Hey guys I've got LT275/70R17 BFG KO2s and just went from the standard Trail wheels to the TRD wheels. I'm getting rubbing on the front mud flaps with a lift. Question: If I remove the mud flaps will I notice more rocks/mud/dirt/dust hitting the body of the car? How functional are these stock mud flaps? Thanks


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I have seen where others have done this to resolve small rubs on the mudflap.

Take a heat-gun to the area rubbing (should be easy to identify as it should have linear scrapes going up from where the tire rubs). With a little bit of melting going on, push the softened plastic in and away from the tires.

I have a small 2" lift and noted that the mud-flaps don't really help much anymore.

 

[wheelrr]

Newby question. Just Totaled my FJ I ad 35x12.5/17 on it.
going to be putting 3-4" of lift on a 2016 TEP. my question is can you get a set of bfg 02 in either 285/75/17 or 295/70/17 to fit with minor trimming? thanks

 

[Jhalko]

Hey guys I've got LT275/70R17 BFG KO2s and just went from the standard Trail wheels to the TRD wheels. I'm getting rubbing on the front mud flaps with a lift. Question: If I remove the mud flaps will I notice more rocks/mud/dirt/dust hitting the body of the car? How functional are these stock mud flaps? Thanks
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I did not have any mud flaps on my truck stock, added them a year later. It did make a difference to the dirt and stuff that was flung onto the side of the truck. It isn't earth shattering but there is a difference on my model. Hit it with the heat gun as suggested above.

 

[Jhalko]

Newby question. Just Totaled my FJ I ad 35x12.5/17 on it.
going to be putting 3-4" of lift on a 2016 TEP. my question is can you get a set of bfg 02 in either 285/75/17 or 295/70/17 to fit with minor trimming? thanks

No, it's likely going to need a body mount chop among other things. Check out the first post in this thread.

 

[Ceedogdiddly]

I did not have any mud flaps on my truck stock, added them a year later. It did make a difference to the dirt and stuff that was flung onto the side of the truck. It isn't earth shattering but there is a difference on my model. Hit it with the heat gun as suggested above.

Pretty easy to find out....

Step one drive your truck to a parking lot with some mud / puddles.

Step two drive through mud.

Step three get out and see if there is any indication of said mud on intended removal area. (On the inside of the mud flaps)

Step four report back your findings.

Or.... I can just tell you yes, especially with a lift. The more exposed the tire the greater chance of rocks ect hitting the body.

-A

and also hitting other people



keep your mud flaps, they aren't just for you

I have seen where others have done this to resolve small rubs on the mudflap.



Take a heat-gun to the area rubbing (should be easy to identify as it should have linear scrapes going up from where the tire rubs). With a little bit of melting going on, push the softened plastic in and away from the tires.



I have a small 2" lift and noted that the mud-flaps don't really help much anymore.

Thanks for the info and an actual resolution! I'll try that heat gun idea out. Sounds like a winner


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[Duke562]

Does this wheel fit with a 2.5 inch lift on a 2011 sr5

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[Lindenwood]

I posted this in the huge wheel and tire fitment thread, but thought it might be relevant here since this is secific to 285s.

These are 17x8s with 4" BS, wrapped in 285s (285/70r17). They stick out a hair past flush, but it us still relatively subtle. I eyeballed a bit over 32.75" with my tape measure, so they are pretty standard size-wise. Agressive mud tires with squarer shoulder lugs might be at greater risk of rubbing.

I pushed the front of the fender liners forward at least 1.5 inches (about as far as I could) and have the mudflaps removed. It has a pretty typical alignment, but looking at the LCA cam bolts there should be some room to increase caster and push the wheels forward a bit.

I got it as far into "full stuff" as I could. With the left front on a mound, completely turned to the left, and the left rear quite a ways off the ground. There was about 1/4 to 3/8" of space between the tire and the body mount.

This is on a TRD pro with factory suspension, so I am not 100% sure how this might work with TE or SR5 factory suspension for aggressive wheeling. (Does the TRD front suspension just use springs to increase the ride height, so overall travel is not actually changed? Or are there other hardware differences that change the front ride height?) There isnt a huge difference in static ride height, though, so this might still work on a TE or SR5.

Hope this helps!

 

[THXIVMU]

5th gen 20x9 rims

Hello everyone, im new here.
I just want to thank everyone who posted here and after a few long nights of reading up on this subject i made a decision on rims and rubber and it worked out amazing.

I have a 2016 Limited, no spacers, no lift and will probably never leave the pavement.
OEM is 245/60/20 Yoko Geolander G96
OEM rim is a 20x7 +15

Just recently swapped it all out for,
275/55/20 bfg KO2
KMC Rockstar 2 rim 20x9 +18

Extremely happy to say i have zero rubbing, no rubbing over bumps and no rubbing at full lock going forward or in reverse.

Thank you everyone !!

 

[walstylez]

Hey all, I could really use some help. I've read a couple threads and unfortunately, my "banker" brain is not an "engineer" brain and I'm trying to figure this out.

2016 TE w/ XP Package (Southeast Toyota Distributor option), comes with wheel/tire combo size 275/55/20 (no lift). I got 1.25" Spidertrax wheel spacers and threw them on there not doing my research first. Looked bad ass, but rubbed the fender and mudguard in the front, took them off after two days. Now I've decided to get a 2" front/ 1" rear leveling kit and was told that if I get that kit installed, I shouldn't have any rubbing. Can anyone help me figure out for sure that it won't...and any opinions on if it will affect the ride negatively or performance of 4 wheel drive? I'm not much of an off-road guy, but in case it snows or something...

A huge thank you.

 

[Lightenup_bro]

Hey all, I could really use some help. I've read a couple threads and unfortunately, my "banker" brain is not an "engineer" brain and I'm trying to figure this out.

2016 TE w/ XP Package (Southeast Toyota Distributor option), comes with wheel/tire combo size 275/55/20 (no lift). I got 1.25" Spidertrax wheel spacers and threw them on there not doing my research first. Looked bad ass, but rubbed the fender and mudguard in the front, took them off after two days. Now I've decided to get a 2" front/ 1" rear leveling kit and was told that if I get that kit installed, I shouldn't have any rubbing. Can anyone help me figure out for sure that it won't...and any opinions on if it will affect the ride negatively or performance of 4 wheel drive? I'm not much of an off-road guy, but in case it snows or something...

A huge thank you.

I had responded in the other thread but this one is better for this anyway.

I originally had the XP package Tire/Wheel combo but I changed that up a while back (found somebody willing to pay me enough for it to make it worth it). I lifted mine with Bilsteins and OME coils about 2.5" and had rubbing. I even added 1.5" hubcentric spacers, you guessed it, more rubbing. Got my alignment done and picked up a new blade for my utility knife. I spent about 10-20 minutes trimming my front fender and the rubbing was gone.

IF you have rubbing it is very easy to fix. For the mudguards use a heat gun on them and roll it with a bottle to get the room you need. If you search there are more in depth write ups on these

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/150779-falls-lift-questions.html#post759604

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/178472-solution-tires-rubbing-front-mud-flaps.html

As far as affecting your offroad ability...eh depends on what you consider offroad. It wont have a huge negative affect and there wont be really any positive either. It will look BA though.

 

[fastcat27]

The chart in the OP is great!!! Thank you. I think the question i haven't seen answered is how lifting the vehicle affects the tire size that you could fit. For example, 285/70/17 would be yellow but does that change with lifting the vehicle say 3" ? I'm only on page 9 of 30 so maybe someone will answer this as i read the rest of the posts.

Thank you in advance for your response

 

[CF_Machete]

The chart in the OP is great!!! Thank you. I think the question i haven't seen answered is how lifting the vehicle affects the tire size that you could fit. For example, 285/70/17 would be yellow but does that change with lifting the vehicle say 3" ? I'm only on page 9 of 30 so maybe someone will answer this as i read the rest of the posts.

Thank you in advance for your response

I'm running them with rubbing at full lock reverse left. Stock height and fender liner mod. You can do that before a lift.

 

[1engineer]

The chart in the OP is great!!! Thank you. I think the question i haven't seen answered is how lifting the vehicle affects the tire size that you could fit. For example, 285/70/17 would be yellow but does that change with lifting the vehicle say 3" ? I'm only on page 9 of 30 so maybe someone will answer this as i read the rest of the posts.

Thank you in advance for your response

That's because lifting the 4Runner does not affect tire fitment. And yes, that's right.

Sure, if you lift the vehicle you can fit bigger tires without rubbing... if you never drive the vehicle! If you drive the vehicle or take it off road the suspension has to go up and down right? So if you lift it 2" and your suspension drops 2" while off roading, you are back to stock height for an instant.

You have to make your tires fit throughout your suspension range, including stock height. If they don't rub at stock height they probably won't rub any other time.

 

[fastcat27]

im checking out Falken Wild Peak A/T tires to put on my 2015 Trail. and by the specs off the site and comparing to the spread sheet i can get
AT01 LT275/70R17 32X11.0R17 32.6 tall 10.9 wide
has anyone experienced these on stock height?
this is a daily driver , probably wont see major off road use ever . i have an FJ80 for that.

I loved these tires for daily use. I'm sad they don't make them anymore.

 

[fastcat27]

That's because lifting the 4Runner does not affect tire fitment. And yes, that's right.

Sure, if you lift the vehicle you can fit bigger tires without rubbing... if you never drive the vehicle! If you drive the vehicle or take it off road the suspension has to go up and down right? So if you lift it 2" and your suspension drops 2" while off roading, you are back to stock height for an instant.

You have to make your tires fit throughout your suspension range, including stock height. If they don't rub at stock height they probably won't rub any other time.

1Engineer, Thank you! I'm not doing any off roading except an occasional graded dirt road. I can totally understand why people say go back to the chart now. thanks!:usa2:

 

[1engineer]

1Engineer, Thank you! I'm not doing any off roading except an occasional graded dirt road. I can totally understand why people say go back to the chart now. thanks!:usa2:

No problem!

 

[WaldoOneFive]

That's because lifting the 4Runner does not affect tire fitment. And yes, that's right.

Sure, if you lift the vehicle you can fit bigger tires without rubbing... if you never drive the vehicle! If you drive the vehicle or take it off road the suspension has to go up and down right? So if you lift it 2" and your suspension drops 2" while off roading, you are back to stock height for an instant.

You have to make your tires fit throughout your suspension range, including stock height. If they don't rub at stock height they probably won't rub any other time.

Thank you for this explanation! This makes total sense.

 

[mferg318]

Very helpful information. I have owned several tacomas and love tacomaworld... T4R is the 4runner equivalent.