Heated Windshield Issue

[eddiebx]

Well.. nothing yet from the dealer....

But.. i just traded it in locally for a Trail Navi KDSS 2011 WITH a heated windshield

Well that's certainly one way to rectify your problem.

Congrats sir! btw, did you check for the grid lines? ound:

 

[adam2562]

Hahaha yea.. first thing i noticed!

 

[Glassgirl2014]

Heated vs non heated

I am in the glass industry and the cost of the glass with certain features is directly affected by the popularity of the feature... For example if heated windshields account for 75% of the vehicles produced then it will actually cost less than the plain ( aftermarket) the way we deal with heated vs non heated when the vin is not available is that we assume it has heat... This way if it has heat we are covered and if it doesn't u can always put a heated windshield in a non heated vehicle just pull the wires... The grid is well hidden by location and the tint of the glass... And truly the price is not any different. The vin does give the glass features u just need to look in the right place... Heat would be under exterior along with rain sensing wipers. Auto dimming mirror interior... Lane departure, forward collision, heads up display as well as laser deletion are safety and security features.. On star in most vehicles is equivalent to GPS... Navigation and remote start can also affect what glass you need to order. Humidity and condensation sensors are the latest features which can affect the glass you need to order. Mostly because there needs to be mounts attached to the glass to reattach your features.. Good luck!

 

[mattyrides07]

Just bought my 2013 TE Wednesday night. Yesterday I found out the button on my dash is for the wiper de-icer. I don't have the wiper marks on the windshield, but there is a dark black tint around the entire windshield... The dealer replaced the windshield before I bought it. The cracked windshield was marked on the 160-point inspection.

 

[curmudge1]

New windshield for me

This thread was quite helpful, here's my story:

Bought CPO 2012 4R TE in August, when there's not much call for defrosting, right?

Tried out the wiper defroster Sunday, it did not work. Monday, searched the T4R forum, found a couple of threads, including this one. Looked at the 4R windshield, I did not see the heat wires. Made an appointment with selling dealer's service & took it in, said that the wiper defroster was not working (just a couple thousand miles inside CPU 12 mo/12K miles comprehensive warranty). Tech & service advisor tried to say that the wiper defroster was an option that my 4R just did not have, according to the sticker info on their computer (which I cannot get, I guess - I did ask). I showed them the 2012 4R brochure which shows that this is standard on all 3 models (SR5, TE, Limited) and why would Toyota put a switch in that did not work? Service advisor did not have a good answer, but we weren't making any progress so I said that I thought maybe the previous owner had replaced the windshield with one that did not have the heating elements -- the "wrong" one. Spotted my 4R in the Service area (not work space, but where it's checked in) & went over to it & started talking to the tech there, saying the same thing to him. Advisor followed me & he noticed right away that the windshield was not Toyota glass (I looked at one from a guy at work, "Toyota" is etched in the lower corner driver side on his). Could I wait in the customer lounge a few minutes? Sure.... Well, they ordered me a new Toyota windshield, order form says used car manager approved it, or somesuch. $1169 list price, iirc.

They could not fix the wiper defroster operation without a new windshield, so that's good for me. I don't think they would have to replace non-Toyota glass just because it's not Toyota.

If I had just accepted their "it's not installed option" original response & walked away, nothing would have been done. I can't say for sure if this was an intentional thing, dealership trying to sneak one by or not, but I suspect that it's just an oversight ... CPO inspection does not check for Toyota glass, and if you press the button & it lights up, then I think it's natural to think it's working. Shop tech & service advisor ... well, I think it's a new thing for them, they had not seen this circumstance before. And, they're doing right by me, so that's what counts, IMHO.

Hope someone finds this helpful. Thanks T4R!
--
Dave

 

[FordyceCreek]

Wow, I remember wondering what that switch was, just went out and checked our 2015 Pro and there it is. Could have been using it this winter. Guess we better make sure we have glass replacement coverage :bolt:

 

[kdf39]

So... is there an easy way to debug this ?

I was looking for a haynes or chilton manual for 2012's and there doesn't appear to be anything available.

I've validated that the fuse is good. Switch is there and lights up.

I did have the windshield replaced, I don't see any toyota etching in it so I'm not sure if it's aftermarket (probably is) but it does have all the requisite thermal wires in the glass at the wiper level and up the driver's side A pillar.

I'm tempted to open up the passenger side A pillar and validate that the wires are attached but haven't done this before and prefer not to mess with things that could set off the air bags

Thoughts ?

 

[walterego]

So... is there an easy way to debug this ?

Here's what I got from Toyota's repair manual...

 

[kdf39]

Here's what I got from Toyota's repair manual...

Thanks !