Help me out 265's or 285's.. any regrets? ASAP
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brockeverly
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285's or you will regret it later.
Nachies
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Now that's FUNNY! Thanks guys.
phillyd2
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All depends on how you are using your truck. If its really mostly a hwy driver and its a decent amount of hwy miles then I would stick with 265 and I would NOT go Duratrac. Note that I do ride on Duratrac and really love them but my driving mix is way different.
My 06 4Runner was more a daily driver and ran Michelin LTX M/S 2. Damn near perfect. There are also less $$ options that would serve you better.
Like with most tools, use the one best made for the job.
My 06 4Runner was more a daily driver and ran Michelin LTX M/S 2. Damn near perfect. There are also less $$ options that would serve you better.
Like with most tools, use the one best made for the job.
zidaro
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I would suggest a little milder tire than the Duratrac if you are mostly highway.
I have been running them on multiple vehicles since they came out and i love them. My driving is majority dirt roads and snow covered roads/highway (not necessarily this year in the Sierras). On dry Highway maybe 20% and they handle well but do make a humm and wear faster than they should.
Hankook, Toyo, Nitto and others all make a lesser aggressive all-terrain that will perform better on highway and last longer. Just my opinion.
I have been running them on multiple vehicles since they came out and i love them. My driving is majority dirt roads and snow covered roads/highway (not necessarily this year in the Sierras). On dry Highway maybe 20% and they handle well but do make a humm and wear faster than they should.
Hankook, Toyo, Nitto and others all make a lesser aggressive all-terrain that will perform better on highway and last longer. Just my opinion.
brockeverly
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For a highway used AT that still performs offroad, check out the Yokoham Geolander ATS. I have them and they are great. Quiet, good traction in mud and rocky desert, and less expensive.
Bay33saw
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OK I am in the market for a 2010/11 LE and I'm new to the site I have noticed a lot of people with LE's that they are changing the stock tires for other ones. Why are the stock tires so bad? For me who will be driving 90% on tarmac and maybe the odd weekend in the dirt to go shoot and even that is on graded dirt roads what benefit would I get from changing out the stock tires?
Would I need to?
Would I notice the difference in the ride?
Would it effect gas mileage, if so by how much?
The OEM rims/tires on the LE are more like a semi; narrow in order to get the best possible mileage. A lot of LE owners are switching because they take their trucks offroad a lot and want a tire that will hold up to those rigors better. or they simply want that offroad-look. If you are a LE living in the suburbs, the rims/tires are fine.
There are some "in between" options like the Geolanders that Brockeverly mentioned. There is a thread on 20inch rims with more offroad looking tires on here as well. However, if you are going to do some more serious trail, you'll want to switch to a 17 inch rim in order to get that extra sidewall to absorb terrain/rocks/etc.
The drawback to AT tires include:
* Reduced mileage (usually about 1~2 mpg).
* More road noise.
* Depending on tire size some rubbing.
* Faster wear of the tires/shorter tire life.
Hopefully this provides some context for your decision.
Okki
03_4x4Runner
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If you are mostly highway I would not go to 285. I hate the lose of power and mpg will take a hit. I have bfg all terrains and they are quiet for a all terrain tire but as years go by I do get tired of the hum from the tires. My freind has a 4runner about like mine that is stock and I love the added power and quietness of the stock tires. If I were to buy a new 4runner i would have the stock tires for everyday use and a set of all terrains for off road. Expect to lose at least 2 mpg with 285's. Gas is expected to be $4 a gallon by this spring. If this does not concern you then put on the bigger tires. Just be prepared to have the 4runner feel like you are always pulling a small trailer around with the power lose. Others will say it is liveable but there is no free ride. It is all a comprimise. If you live in flat country it is not as bad but mountains and hill will suck. My freind put 285 on his Tacoma and said it suckes here in the mountains. It was constantly downshifting on any grade with the engine screaming to keep up with traffic. Between that and the reduced gas mileage he took them off and went smaller. If all you care about is a cool look then go as big as possible and deal with it. The only good option it big tires and regearing.
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2010riddle
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I am stock but looking to go 285. I am under the impression that weight plays a big part of the gas mileage drop and surprisingly the Duratracs are one of the few 285 tires that come in load range D as well as only 53lbs. Most of the less aggressive tires are load range E and 5-10lbs heavier. Anyone know if the rolling resistance of the more aggressive tire will negate the lighter weight?
lowrange44
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I am very happy with my P-Rated 285/70/17 Bridgestone Dueler Revo's.
I strongly considered other tires, but the Revo's best fit the application. They are P-rated for comfort and low rolling resistance, decent on/off-road traction and look great.
There was very little power loss and mileage is only down about .5 mpg's.
The truck is currently leveled with Icon CO's up front and Icon Vseries rear shocks. I would go up another 1.5" but then it wouldn't fit in the garage.
I have a TE with KDSS and the ride/handling is fantastic.
After the front fender liner was moved forward there is absolutely no tire rub. The alignment is in spec and the 285/70/17 fits in the factory spare tire location.
In my opinion it is the perfect setup. Other larger/more aggressive setups look great but I am not traveling on more extreme terrain.
I strongly considered other tires, but the Revo's best fit the application. They are P-rated for comfort and low rolling resistance, decent on/off-road traction and look great.
There was very little power loss and mileage is only down about .5 mpg's.
The truck is currently leveled with Icon CO's up front and Icon Vseries rear shocks. I would go up another 1.5" but then it wouldn't fit in the garage.
I have a TE with KDSS and the ride/handling is fantastic.
After the front fender liner was moved forward there is absolutely no tire rub. The alignment is in spec and the 285/70/17 fits in the factory spare tire location.
In my opinion it is the perfect setup. Other larger/more aggressive setups look great but I am not traveling on more extreme terrain.
jca21
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if you're doing mostly highway driving with the odd venture off road i'd go with what phillyd2 said and get a set of michelin ltx ms2.
theres no real point in you getting duratracs besides the aggressive look imo if you spend most of your time on highway.
also i'd keep the tires 265 if i were you.
theres no real point in you getting duratracs besides the aggressive look imo if you spend most of your time on highway.
also i'd keep the tires 265 if i were you.
03_4x4Runner
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Here are a couple articles about tire size and weight.
Excessive Tire Weight | Editorials Blog & Discussion at Jp Magazine
Tires and Fuel Economy - Four Wheeler Magazine
WaySlowWhitey
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I'm running a Toytec 2.5/1.5 lift and kept 265's. Living in Denver I need all the power I can get and really don't think it looks bad. Hankook ATMR10's are a great tire. Had them on my RAM 1500 and never had traction issues (snow, mud, dirt). Not too noisy on the highway and no noticeable affect on mileage.
03_4x4Runner
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Tire test from JP magazine, smae article is in new 4wheel and off road.
The Hot Sheet: 33 Off-Road Tires Tested - Jp Magazine
The Hot Sheet: 33 Off-Road Tires Tested - Jp Magazine
RiDE
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I really wish the Yokohama Geolander m/t was available in a 285/70-17 size. That would be perfect. I really was set on the Trail grapplers but seeing these weight differences is causing me to think twice.
All tires tested are 35x12.50R17.
Yokohama Geolandar MT--61.7 pounds (D load range)
Goodyear MT/R------------64 pounds (C load range)
**** Cepek Radial FCII----68 pounds (D load range)
BFG MT KM2-------------68 pounds (D load range)
**** Cepek Mud Country--69 pounds (D load range)
Kumho Road Venture MT--75 pounds (E load range)
Nitto Trail Grappler---------78 (E load range)
General Grabber MT-------78.7 (E load range)
All tires tested are 35x12.50R17.
Yokohama Geolandar MT--61.7 pounds (D load range)
Goodyear MT/R------------64 pounds (C load range)
**** Cepek Radial FCII----68 pounds (D load range)
BFG MT KM2-------------68 pounds (D load range)
**** Cepek Mud Country--69 pounds (D load range)
Kumho Road Venture MT--75 pounds (E load range)
Nitto Trail Grappler---------78 (E load range)
General Grabber MT-------78.7 (E load range)
cbielat
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I just put the 285 Duratracs on my 4Runner. I've only had a decrease in mileage of about 2. There was just no way I was sticking with the stock tire size when upgrading. I am in sales and am on the road all day logging the miles but I'm okay with taking the hit for having the vehicle looking proper.
offroadingatc
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I have a toytec ultimate 3" lift and stock sized Duratracs and I'm pretty happy with that combo.
Advantages of 285's
-better flotation on deep mud or sand
-very slightly better ground clearance
-possibly looks better
Advantages of 265's
-better mileage (but you'll still take a decent hit)
-better traction in snow or shallow mud
-accurate speedo/odo
I personally disagree with the concept that you should buy a tire that suits 90% of your needs. Following that logic most of us shouldn't be driving a 4runner in the first place. I personally spend 90+% of my time highway driving, but the other 5-10% is muddy cottage roads or worse, however if I didn't have my Duratracs it would eliminate that 10% of my driving... /rant
Advantages of 285's
-better flotation on deep mud or sand
-very slightly better ground clearance
-possibly looks better
Advantages of 265's
-better mileage (but you'll still take a decent hit)
-better traction in snow or shallow mud
-accurate speedo/odo
I personally disagree with the concept that you should buy a tire that suits 90% of your needs. Following that logic most of us shouldn't be driving a 4runner in the first place. I personally spend 90+% of my time highway driving, but the other 5-10% is muddy cottage roads or worse, however if I didn't have my Duratracs it would eliminate that 10% of my driving... /rant
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