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Have you done Canyons yet?
Never been myself. It's only open a few weekends a year. There are gobs of excellent and extremely challenging offroad terrain in the area. Most of it is more difficult than what you find elsewhere. However, it is all private, which is fine with me, but you can only go when they are open and must be willing to pay... It's specific to people who are enthusiast and you can tell the difference between the poser jeeps and the ones that actually hit the trails. There is also excellent overlanding down in big bend area, but that is not much closer than driving to NM or CO.

Two of my neighbors have jeep Rubicons that have never been in 4wd. I keep telling them to bring them out and see what it is like, but their excuse is always "we have a soccer/lacross tournament that weekend or I'm jarring some artisinal pickles and working on a batch of craft beer )..... Go home back to cali you hippies.
 
Never been myself. It's only open a few weekends a year. There are gobs of excellent and extremely challenging offroad terrain in the area. Most of it is more difficult than what you find elsewhere. However, it is all private, which is fine with me, but you can only go when they are open and must be willing to pay... It's specific to people who are enthusiast and you can tell the difference between the poser jeeps and the ones that actually hit the trails. There is also excellent overlanding down in big bend area, but that is not much closer than driving to NM or CO.

Two of my neighbors have jeep Rubicons that have never been in 4wd. I keep telling them to bring them out and see what it is like, but their excuse is always "we have a soccer/lacross tournament that weekend or I'm jarring some artisinal pickles and working on a batch of craft beer )..... Go home back to cali you hippies.

Yep it's easy to tell the difference. Just look for scratches lol.
 
For what it's worth, Nevada is the most mountainous state in the continental US. Second in the entire US behind only Alaska, based on peaks.

According to National Geographic West Virgina is the most mountainous. I it all depends on how you define it. I think the metric that Nevada claims relies on raw number of named peaks. I'm not sure anyone would actually go to Nevada, then to Utah and say Nevada has more mountains. It simply has more named peaks. By that same metric it has more mountains than Nepal...

I would probably say Hawaii is the most mountainous state by percentage of land area.

Either way apparently it has very few modified 4runners. Even our rental 4runners are trail editions.
 
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Never been myself. It's only open a few weekends a year. There are gobs of excellent and extremely challenging offroad terrain in the area. Most of it is more difficult than what you find elsewhere. However, it is all private, which is fine with me, but you can only go when they are open and must be willing to pay... It's specific to people who are enthusiast and you can tell the difference between the poser jeeps and the ones that actually hit the trails. There is also excellent overlanding down in big bend area, but that is not much closer than driving to NM or CO.

Actually that was directed [MENTION=80024]STX4Runner[/MENTION], but thanks for the response. Lol. I met STX with a couple other San Antonio area 4R guys last year over burgers and I think Canyons was one of the parks we discussed. I wasn't aware it was only open a few weekends a year. I had the impression it was open every weekend except when they had scheduled events (Rock Crawling Races). I did do a one day ride up there early last summer and we just showed up. I never made it to Hidden Falls while I was working over there, but wanted to try that one. I also wanted to do a long weekend at Big Bend but never managed that either.
 
Nope, haven't made it to Canyons, yet. Hidden Falls is pretty good, and as [MENTION=106176]wfo9[/MENTION] says, it has some pretty extreme terrain. But there is a big difference between paying to play in a managed park and having thousands of miles of free trails on public lands where you're not confined to a smaller area.
 
Two of my neighbors have jeep Rubicons that have never been in 4wd. I keep telling them to bring them out and see what it is like, but their excuse is always "we have a soccer/lacross tournament that weekend or I'm jarring some artisinal pickles and working on a batch of craft beer )..... Go home back to cali you hippies.
I can drive over to Highland Park and see a dozen Rubicons, driven by high school girls.:dance:
 
Back to the original topic of this thread...I almost never see 5th Gen 4Runners with even non stock tires on them. But I do see a lot of 5th Gens and especially a lot of 2013+ ones. I never see older Trail Editions, but I see a handfull of 2013+ Trails. The vehicles people modify around here are the previously mentioned JKs and full size pickups.
 
Even here, where TEs are popular, I don't see many 10-13 TEs, maybe 1/30th the SR5s and Limiteds of 10-13. I see lots of 14+ SR5s and maybe TEs, I can't really tell them apart, not very many 14+ limiteds. I see a lot more 14+ 4runners on trails than I see 10-13s, but see a lot more 14+ 4runners in general.

Guessing there was an increase in sales of 14-15 models. I never cared for the new styling compared to the old TE, but much prefer the new SR5 to the old SR5 and LE styling.
 
Even here, where TEs are popular, I don't see many 10-13 TEs, maybe 1/30th the SR5s and Limiteds of 10-13. I see lots of 14+ SR5s and maybe TEs, I can't really tell them apart, not very many 14+ limiteds. I see a lot more 14+ 4runners on trails than I see 10-13s, but see a lot more 14+ 4runners in general.

Guessing there was an increase in sales of 14-15 models. I never cared for the new styling compared to the old TE, but much prefer the new SR5 to the old SR5 and LE styling.

I think there was a big increase in 4Runner sales after the 2014 models came out, and Toyota started making a larger percentage of Trail Editions.
 
There are 3 TE's in my small work parking lot alone. There are 2 TRDP's in my neighborhood and another one that I see going to the local high school once a week or so.
On average I pass 5-7 5th gens on my way to work every day and it's a 3 mile drive. They're as common here as a prius in LA.

Here are a few crappy pics. 2 are TRDPs.
 

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I think there was a big increase in 4Runner sales after the 2014 models came out, and Toyota started making a larger percentage of Trail Editions.


The FJC is retired and a increase in the production of 4runner TE's occurs. Coincidence?
 
The FJC is retired and a increase in the production of 4runner TE's occurs. Coincidence?

Not coincidence just like when 4th gen sales dropped when the FJC was introduced. The market is only so big for this type vehicle.

From Wikipedia

Sales[edit]


Calendar year

United States

1995 75,962[citation needed]
1996 99,597[citation needed]
1997 128,496[citation needed]
1998 118,484[citation needed]
1999 124,221[citation needed]
2000 111,797[19]
2001 90,250[citation needed]
2002 77,026[20]
2003 109,308[citation needed]
2004 114,212[citation needed]
2005 103,830[citation needed]
2006 103,086[citation needed]
2007 87,718[citation needed]
2008 47,878[citation needed]
2009 19,675[21]
2010 46,531[21]
2011 44,316[22]
2012 48,755[22]
2013 51,625[23]
2014 76,906[24]
 
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Two of my neighbors have jeep Rubicons that have never been in 4wd. I keep telling them to bring them out and see what it is like, but their excuse is always "we have a soccer/lacross tournament that weekend or I'm jarring some artisinal pickles and working on a batch of craft beer )..... Go home back to cali you hippies.

Have you offered to take them in your 4Runner? No risk to their Jeeps that way, and maybe it will convince them to bring their rigs out next time (assuming you don't go nuts and hit the hardest trail and get damage). They may secretly want to go, but are nervous because they don't know what to expect and are afraid of looking dumb or tearing something up due to their ignorance. Honestly, in regards to offroading most of what you see in magazines, youtube, etc... can be intimidating to a noob. Maybe if you can show them something they could handle that is fun and slightly more challenging than propping a wheel up on a parking curb for a selfie they'd come around? Have them bring along those pickles to snack on, and a cooler of their homemade craft beer for after the ride is done. :thumb:
 
I've been watching more closely since this thread started. I was surprised by what I saw in the last few days. I'd guess of all the 4runners in my neighborhood and on my way to and from work (it's a nice, but not super wealthy 'hood), about 50% of the 4runners I see are limited. I kept a tally the other day and it was almost exactly half. The other half are about split evenly between SR5 and Trail/TRD Pro. Only about 1/4 were visibly modified with either lift/tires/wheels.
 
5th gen 4runners out in the mountains on dirt roads are non-existant here in AZ. I have mining claims here in AZ and do a lot of exploring in the bradshaw mountains.....generally driving on old rough mine roads. I have never once seen a 5th gen 4 runner out and about. I would say the breakdown of what I see on the backroads in AZ is:

60% Jeeps - Everything from CJ's, YJ's, lots of TJ's and JK's.
20% Tacomas/FJ's/older 4 runners/small-midsize pickups (generally older models)
10% Old full size pickups - generally cattle ranchers and people that live full time in the mountains
10% Old bronchos/blazers/large SUV's.

My 2010 trail is definately the first 5th gen ive seen offroading. I used to have a 2 door JK Wrangler, and while it was much more adept offroading, I grew tired of the engine issues it was having (never buy a 2012 wrangler....lots of issues with the pentastar engine in that year).
 
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5th gen 4runners out in the mountains on dirt roads are non-existant here in AZ. I have mining claims here in AZ and do a lot of exploring in the bradshaw mountains.....generally driving on old rough mine roads. I have never once seen a 5th gen 4 runner out and about. I would say the breakdown of what I see on the backroads in AZ is:

60% Jeeps - Everything from CJ's, YJ's, lots of TJ's and JK's.
20% Tacomas/FJ's/older 4 runners/small-midsize pickups (generally older models)
10% Old full size pickups - generally cattle ranchers and people that live full time in the mountains
10% Old bronchos/blazers/large SUV's.

My 2010 trail is definately the first 5th gen ive seen offroading. I used to have a 2 door JK Wrangler, and while it was much more adept offroading, I grew tired of the engine issues it was having (never buy a 2012 wrangler....lots of issues with the pentastar engine in that year).

Truth be told: Mine is the ONLY 5th gen I ever see off-roading too. Of course around here when I'm off road I don't generally see ANYONE ELSE at all!
 
I don't know of any modded 5th gens in my city (Chattanooga), other than upgraded wheels/tires and maybe a lift. I'm not saying there aren't any, just that I'm not aware of them. Lots and lots of rocks offroad around here so most of the offroaders are older.

The main problem is that the 5th gen is still too new, and people don't want to scratch them up or void a warranty with mods. The main reason I haven't modded mine before now (other than financial) is that it became my wife's daily driver and she likes to keep things stock. Eventually, though, we'll get her another vehicle and I'll get to play.

A friend recently sold a fully modded 2nd gen (exo cage, solid front axle, the works). Another friend has a lifted Wrangler with 35's that almost never leaves the pavement.
 

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