Inside line doesn't list Toyota introducing any new vehicles in NY

Gromulus said:
You said Jeeps are unreliable (agreed) and that they have crap quality, but now you will "be in one" in eigtheen months. You are going to gamble on a new model with years of questionable reliability from a hurting company. Hmmmm. To each his own.

Beauty is as beauty does.

The quality of that product looks outstanding to me. My issues with prior Grand Cherokees has been with the differentials and cheap interior of last generation. The interior is amazing so thats fixed and they dumped the axle supplier and going back in house. Never had a problem with my Jeeps having Chrysler rear ends. Obviosly I would need to get in one and drive it but Im 99% sure that will be my next ride. Not knocking Toyota at all. My 4Runner is super reliable and great quality. I just want to go back to something with lots of power (360 HP) and the styling of that vehicle appeals to me in every way. Just my .02
 
Gromulus said:
You said Jeeps are unreliable (agreed) and that they have crap quality, but now you will "be in one" in eigtheen months. You are going to gamble on a new model with years of questionable reliability from a hurting company. Hmmmm. To each his own.

Beauty is as beauty does.

Since he is in a 2008 model and wants to trade to a new car in 18 months he obviously doesnt keep one vehicle very long. I wouldnt care about reliabilty much either if I only owned brand new under warrantee vehicles.

Ill be keeping m 4runner, but that GC does look pretty nice. That interior is much nicer than any Jeep I have ever seen
 
Pirate VI said:
Since he is in a 2008 model and wants to trade to a new car in 18 months he obviously doesnt keep one vehicle very long. I wouldnt care about reliabilty much either if I only owned brand new under warrantee vehicles.

Ill be keeping m 4runner, but that GC does look pretty nice. That interior is much nicer than any Jeep I have ever seen
Yeah a warranty is great, but when you have your new car in the shop all the time you don't get to enjoy the car..........Some people in my neighborhood seem to be driving loaner cars more often than their actual car.

I'll take my 4runner with warranty that doesnt require me getting a loaner once a month.
 
Pirate VI said:
Since he is in a 2008 model and wants to trade to a new car in 18 months he obviously doesnt keep one vehicle very long. I wouldnt care about reliabilty much either if I only owned brand new under warrantee vehicles.

Ill be keeping m 4runner, but that GC does look pretty nice. That interior is much nicer than any Jeep I have ever seen

My 4Runner only has 6K miles on it. It will have around 25K when I dump it off.
 
ExJeeper said:
Yea, I will be back in a Jeep in about 18 months. Getting one of those for sure. The interior is amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqGbB6O5d_E

Here it is with some BFG ATs

http://my.off-road.com/_2011-Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-3/photo/3207673/27589.html?b=&enlarge=true

Interior may look great, but the fit and finish may be subpar. In addition, this new Jeep is based on the Mercedes ML. Therefore, it has independent suspension all around with zero wheel travel (as is the case with the ML). You can dresss it up with BFG all day long and it will still be a Honda CRV with BFG. (No offense to CRV owners.) Adjustable ride height? Well, if this is also from Mercedes, then i would run away from that POS system as fast as i can! All these electronic suspension are a liability for anyone who takes their SUV off the beaten path...esp. one made by Mercedes! Hell, they can't even get it right on their E- and S-class...how is Jeep gonna get it right with a "hand-me-down" system??

Yes, it may have the (in)famous QuadraDrive system, but we all know how that system works off-road! :D

There is ONLY ONE REAL JEEP...Jeep Wrangler. The rest are POS posers. Hell, i would probably get the Commander before i would get the new Jeep GC. Actually, IF i were to choose among the jeeps and cannot get the Wrangler, then i would get the Commander, esp. at current firesale prices! :)
 
Thai said:
Interior may look great, but the fit and finish may be subpar. In addition, this new Jeep is based on the Mercedes ML. Therefore, it has independent suspension all around with zero wheel travel (as is the case with the ML). You can dresss it up with BFG all day long and it will still be a Honda CRV with BFG. (No offense to CRV owners.) Adjustable ride height? Well, if this is also from Mercedes, then i would run away from that POS system as fast as i can! All these electronic suspension are a liability for anyone who takes their SUV off the beaten path...esp. one made by Mercedes! Hell, they can't even get it right on their E- and S-class...how is Jeep gonna get it right with a "hand-me-down" system??

Yes, it may have the (in)famous QuadraDrive system, but we all know how that system works off-road! :D

There is ONLY ONE REAL JEEP...Jeep Wrangler. The rest are POS posers. Hell, i would probably get the Commander before i would get the new Jeep GC. Actually, IF i were to choose among the jeeps and cannot get the Wrangler, then i would get the Commander, esp. at current firesale prices! :)

You seem enraged. :happy bda
 
03_4x4Runner said:
I think it is time for ExJeeper to join a Jeep forum. Not many here are interested in Grand Cherokees.

Nah, I will stay here since I have a 4Runner. You should post a pic of the 5th Gen 4Runner..........oh wait......

:bigok:
 
Thai said:


There is ONLY ONE REAL JEEP...Jeep Wrangler. The rest are POS posers. Hell, i would probably get the Commander before i would get the new Jeep GC. Actually, IF i were to choose among the jeeps and cannot get the Wrangler, then i would get the Commander, esp. at current firesale prices! :)


Finally something we agree on .:dancin: ;):
 
I know this is a thread for the 5th gen 4Runner, but since the Jeep GC was brought up, I
 
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To be accurate dcon, you vehicle was the old version (1999). The recent versions have been far better in performance and reliability.

Of course, that doesn't mean that this All New vehicle will follow that trend.

:(

If they cut corners to save money, this might be one of those "pretty on the outside, junk on the inside" vehicles.
 
snap315 said:
To be accurate dcon, you vehicle was the old version (1999). The recent versions have been far better in performance and reliability.

Of course, that doesn't mean that this All New vehicle will follow that trend.

:(

If they cut corners to save money, this might be one of those "pretty on the outside, junk on the inside" vehicles.

Well my brother's current gen 2005 Jeep GC (WK) didn't fair much better in quality than my 1999 GC (WJ). There is reason why Jeeps are consistently at the bottom when it comes to reliability ratings. Like I mentioned in my previous post the future 2011 GC is a re-bodied Mercedes ML, and the ML's haven't been all that reliable. I'm not knocking MB but MLs are junks made in Alabama. Btw my other car is a MB if you look at my sig so I
 

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