Just got back from a local dealer and saw 2 o5s. The new spoiler is kind of funky and looks bulky and not as stream lined as the o4s. The color keyed bumper accents do not look all that great they kind of give it a military look where everything is one color. Saw a SR-5 with a msrp of 32,195. Ouch. The black roof rails and step guards in black on the limiteds give it the plain SR-5 look. The chrome grill on the SR-5 looks great if the step guards were silver and the roof rails as well. It looks like Toyota mixed up everything on all three models. I am sure the new tranny will be an improvemnt as well as the more hp on th V8. I waited for the 05 to arrive and am happy they have. I will purchase an 04 limited on monday and save the cash. This is just my oipinion so relax and voice your concerns as well.