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As explained to you above, hp is not the only reason many of us love our V8. There are good reasons why many luxury vehicles that will never tow or haul anything have more than 6 cylinders in them - smoothness, quickness, torque, etc are all traits that a V8 offers in abundance over their v6 counterparts. .

Well, all I can say to you is to be glad that you have your V8 engine. And try to keep it is good condition because Toyota may never bring back the V8 engine in a 4Runner again. They might, but they might not...nobody knows for sure at this point in time.

I still find the whole debate amusing because there wouldn't be any discussion at all if Toyota never decided to offer a V8 in the 4Runner in the first place. Everyone would have been satisfied with the V6 and we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

I'm not sure if you've noticed this or not, but V8 engines have been declining in numbers over the years. Due to advances in engine technology, engineers have been able to design smaller, more efficient engines to replace the V8. It's really just a matter of time before the V8 will be very rare in new vehicles. So enjoy it while you can and try not to be so against alternate powerplants because you might not even have the option in the future, just like what's happening here with this 5th 4Runner.
 
BTW, I forgot to mention that a slippery boat dock has nothing to do with anything in regards to toque or HP. That's simply a matter of traction. So there is zero advantage for either engine when pulling a heavy boat up a "slippery" boat dock.

And you also have to consider gearing as well. Torque multiplication is a result of gearing, which basically means that switching to low gear on a 4Runner should give you all the torque you need to pull a very heavy boat up a ramp. Hell, even the 4 cyl. engine shouldn't have a problem pulling a boat if you're using low gear.

Thats not true. I have towed a boat for seven years. The low end grunt helps give you traction while on a slippery boat dock just as much as the gearing you mentioned. A 4-banger has no chance in pulling a 6000 pound boat out of the water. You clearly have never owned a V8 vehicle due to your ignorance on the purpose of a V8 and you clearly have never tried pulling a 6000 pound boat/trailer up out of the water. Any other member on this board who pulls a boat can vouch for this.
 
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Thats not true. I have towed a boat for seven years. The low end grunt helps give you traction while on a slippery boat dock. You clearly have never owned a V8 vehcile due to your ignorance on the purpose of a V8 and you clearly have never tried pulling a 6000 pound boat/trailer up out of the water. Any other member on this board who pulls a boat can vouch for this.

Wrong again. The majority of the vehicles I have owned have had V8 engines. I've also towed boats with V8 powered trucks and SUVs. Low end grunt does NOTHING to help with traction. In fact, the opposite is true. A lot of low end torque makes breaking traction easier. If anyone is ignorant here, it's you.
 
Wrong again. The majority of the vehicles I have owned have had V8 engines. I've also towed boats with V8 powered trucks and SUVs. Low end grunt does NOTHING to help with traction. In fact, the opposite is true. A lot of low end torque makes breaking traction easier. If anyone is ignorant here, it's you.

Ok then, I guess you will be the first guy to go out and buy yourself a 4-banger 4Runner. Be sure to tell us how well it works at pulling a heavy boat up a dock!
 
Ok then, I guess you will be the first liberal freak to go out and buy yourself a 4-banger 4Runner. Be sure to tell us how well it works at pulling a heavy boat up a dock!

Liberal freak? I'm neither a liberal nor a freak, thank you very much. I'm just some who understands the relationship of torque, traction, and gearing, which is something you obviously need lessons on.

I'm also not interesting in buying a 4 cylinder 4Runner, but it's nice to see that you just labeled every future owner of a 4 cylinder 4Runner as a "liberal freak".

I hope you are proud of yourself.
 
Okay, thanks for listing the available engines. But here's the problem: The 4 cylinder engine did not replace the V8 engine. What really happened is this: The V6 replaced the V8 and the 4 cylinder replaced the V6. In other words, the V6 is now the powerful engine and the 4 cylinder is now the more economical engine. Hence, it is easy to see why it is foolish to say that Toyota replaced the V8 with a 4 cylinder engine.

So a V6 replaced a v8, and a 4cyl replaced a V6 - that would logically conclude that there was no V6, which isn't the case. I can't believe I had to come back here to post that.

Fella, I just want you to think whatever helps you sleep better at night. Don't worry about me and my antiquated V8 - we'll do fine.
 
I don't understand why anyone says one engine replaced another. Last year Toyota offered a V6 and a V8 engine option. In 2010 they are offering a 4cyl and V6 options.

With respect to the V8 "discussion", I can respect both sides of the argument.
 
Question for all of you. In the redesign of the 4Runner, do we even know if they changed the engine compartment. Does the V8 still fit? Has Toyota offered the new V8 in the Tacoma? Is it a clearance problem?
Just wondering.
Bill W
 
Question for all of you. In the redesign of the 4Runner, do we even know if they changed the engine compartment. Does the V8 still fit? Has Toyota offered the new V8 in the Tacoma? Is it a clearance problem?
Just wondering.
Bill W

It will fit. The new 4Runner and Lexus GX are are based on the same platform. The GX gets the new 4.6L V8. It appears either Toyota feels there will be less demand for the V8 in the 4Runner or they want to better differentiate between the two. As many believe, Toyota may well offer the V8 in coming years.
 
It will fit. The new 4Runner and Lexus GX are are based on the same platform. The GX gets the new 4.6L V8. It appears either Toyota feels there will be less demand for the V8 in the 4Runner or they want to better differentiate between the two. As many believe, Toyota may well offer the V8 in coming years.

Cool. That answers my question. Thanks
Bill W
 
Question for all of you. In the redesign of the 4Runner, do we even know if they changed the engine compartment. Does the V8 still fit? Has Toyota offered the new V8 in the Tacoma? Is it a clearance problem?
Just wondering.
Bill W
Same thing I am confused..Why can't Toyota just have the V8 as an option or maybe a feeler that sometime it will be available. I am not convinced that they faced out the V8. Its better to have many chooses for different buyers and different purpose for their vehicle...and thats basic in business.

..or, they are pressured by government requirements?? because of the truth that a foreign company(Toyota and japanese brands) is competing local brands and infact the cause of US automakers sales defeat.
 
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Wrong again. The majority of the vehicles I have owned have had V8 engines. I've also towed boats with V8 powered trucks and SUVs. Low end grunt does NOTHING to help with traction. In fact, the opposite is true. A lot of low end torque makes breaking traction easier. If anyone is ignorant here, it's you.

You may find that thousands of race engineers from all over the world would say you were mistaken here. Power delivery has everything to do with traction and that is where the v8 shines. Quit while you are behind.
 
Well, all I can say to you is to be glad that you have your V8 engine. And try to keep it is good condition because Toyota may never bring back the V8 engine in a 4Runner again. They might, but they might not...nobody knows for sure at this point in time.

I still find the whole debate amusing because there wouldn't be any discussion at all if Toyota never decided to offer a V8 in the 4Runner in the first place. Everyone would have been satisfied with the V6 and we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

I'm not sure if you've noticed this or not, but V8 engines have been declining in numbers over the years. Due to advances in engine technology, engineers have been able to design smaller, more efficient engines to replace the V8. It's really just a matter of time before the V8 will be very rare in new vehicles. So enjoy it while you can and try not to be so against alternate powerplants because you might not even have the option in the future, just like what's happening here with this 5th 4Runner.

Yes, fewer cylinders in more than cars and trucks too.

Ford rather quietly announced the powerful V6 associated with new SHO in the Flex.

http://www.fordvehicles.com/crossovers/flex/features/#page=Feature17

I digress, but the Flex is growing on me - especially after being in one.
 
We in Russia also wait occurrence of new model. Though we buy these cars in 2-2,5 times under higher by what you. :reddance::reddance::reddance:
 

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