Simpleman74
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and you wont for a while now
Takata bankrupt now what
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wfo9
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Hey [MENTION=80024]STX4Runner[/MENTION],
Try the dealer and see what they say since your VIN is 2010. I'm curious and you might be able to slip in before they run out if they had any to begin with.. My VIN is 2011 and the document says it won't be scheduled until September, so I'm not sure if that impacts what they are telling me or not.
The dealers seem clueless, but that does not surprise me at all..
orangeblue
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They definitely have to open the hood, since you can't work on the airbag system without disconnecting the battery...
Tisoy281
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Hahahaha! I had a Sienna rental a few months back for this whole recall crap, and the rental car company calls and tells me to bring the Sienna in for a recall. I just took the damn thing back and took my 4runner.
Tisoy281
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They're rolling out the recalls by zones. Southern coastal zones going first. The heat and humidity is what expedites the degredation of the airbag inflator.
5280 TRail-Runner
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Not sure how accurate or update to date this is but you can try entering your vin and see if anything comes up. I put mine in and had no recalls. I have a 2016 TEP which I got basically at the end of the year new with 5 miles off the lot.
https://www.toyota.com/recall
https://www.toyota.com/recall
wfo9
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LOL, the irony.
HerT4R
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called the dealer and told them i needed an airbag replacement per the recall. gave them my VIN. they said its likely if they have the parts on hand they will do the swap right then (since they stated that they have had the parts on hand for the other makes and models they thought it was likely they would have them on hand for this one). I will keep you guys posted. my appt is for friday morning.
and i figured since [MENTION=66389]BlackWorksInc[/MENTION] has been replacing them then somebody has the parts so the story sounded likely.
wfo9
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Unfortunately, I think he meant other Toyota vehicles but let us know. Seems like it should be a a few minutes of effort for them to look up parts availability over the phone... but I guess you have to go through the motions and take one for the team. My guess is that it will be a wasted trip, but I really hope not.
BlackWorksInc
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Well, the units should theoretically function as designed up and past the point where the recall occurs. The point the recall describes is sort of a "sell by date" like you'd see on a milk carton. The milk doesn't just turn to cheese the moment that day comes, but after that date it starts to degrade and become sour. Same concept here, after the date/time they've indicated the likelihood of the airbag inflator becoming degraded and dangerous goes from 0.01% to 1.0% and continues to increase (these are arbitrary numbers for the sake of example, I don't know the real statistics), which puts them in a statistically unsafe category and hence the recall.
This is all of course assuming the information provided to the technicians, sales persons, and consumer are all accurate.
I'm with you on that, while it's not Toyota's fault entirely; they need to stand by their product and make sure things are taken care of for their customers, regardless of what happens with Takata. The good news is that so far Toyota has been doing that and from what I hear, they're going to continue doing that despite this hiccup (how I'm not sure).
Well according to an updated set of documents I just saw on TIS it seems that the remedy for 2010 5th gen 4Runners (and 2010 Matrix) is now available as of 6/27/17. Which means that those who are applicable under the G0P/G1P Recall for Zone A now have a fix for their vehicle. Just to be clear that doesn't mean every dealership has parts, it just means that now Toyota has a "fix" for the vehicle and the recall is now transitioning from "Interim" to "Remedy Available", I imagine it will be a week or more before parts start getting to dealers as they order them and letters/calls/notifications start making their way to owners. All that being said I do encourage you to use the websites mentioned by others for looking up your VIN and/or calling your local dealership to have the VIN run for active recalls.
As for your question regarding what they're going to do [MENTION=115953]HerT4R[/MENTION], the entire dash has to come out. So basically everything attached to the dashboard is coming off as the airbag is installed to the dashboard on these vehicles. Oh goody, that sounds like it's going to be fun when we get to them. lol
Update:
Included Toyota's Website for running VIN for active recalls.
https://www.toyota.com/recall
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Easy, don't get histerical.
Takata a jap company has been going through bankruptcy process since the airbags have killed about 20 people and injured many others.
Now it appears that a USA company is looking to buy Takata... for about 2 billion ... the USA company wants NO liability for the millions of defective air bags so that is where its at now.
if this liability is removed , then all the manufacturers will be stuck with costs to replace these defective parts.
these Takata employees should be in jail as they knew that these parts corroded and then particles would kill/injure people ..
HerT4R
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Well all i can do is call and try to verify who has the parts. Luckily the appt is for friday so there is still some time to cancel on them.
Well according to an updated set of documents I just saw on TIS it seems that the remedy for 2010 5th gen 4Runners (and 2010 Matrix) is now available as of 6/27/17. Which means that those who are applicable under the G0P/G1P Recall for Zone A now have a fix for their vehicle. Just to be clear that doesn't mean every dealership has parts, it just means that now Toyota has a "fix" for the vehicle and the recall is now transitioning from "Interim" to "Remedy Available", I imagine it will be a week or more before parts start getting to dealers as they order them and letters/calls/notifications start making their way to owners. All that being said I do encourage you to use the websites mentioned by others for looking up your VIN and/or calling your local dealership to have the VIN run for active recalls.
As for your question regarding what they're going to do [MENTION=115953]HerT4R[/MENTION], the entire dash has to come out. So basically everything attached to the dashboard is coming off as the airbag is installed to the dashboard on these vehicles. Oh goody, that sounds like it's going to be fun when we get to them. lol
Update:
Included Toyota's Website for running VIN for active recalls.
https://www.toyota.com/recall
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def cancelling with the dealer i was going to have do the work, they are near my workplace but they arent the best, going to cancel that appt and wait for a letter... and maybe call some other dealers that i trust more than the one i had initially called.
Jetboy
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Toyota's doing a hell of a lot better than my Honda motorcycle engine recall. Honda built about 30,000 engines with a bad crank assembly. The "fix" is to send a new crank assembly and have a local honda dealer rebuild the engine. Not an acceptable fix IMO. If you've ever been in the back of a motorcycle shop - it's literally a guy with no formal training rebuilding in a wooden box or on a work bench and it's rare to see a torq wrench at all. No thanks. No matter how good the mechanic is - they don't have the tools a factory does to do it right. Honda should be sending out new complete engines. Time to unload the bike. Toyota does a far better job of standing behind its products.
orangeblue
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No.
Key Safety Systems, out of Michigan, is planning on purchasing only assets from Takata (i.e. some of their factories and possibly intellectual property). An asset purchase doesn't involve transferring liabilities like a merger would.
The $1.6B Takata gets from the sale is then used to help pay creditors (their US bankruptcy filing claimed debts between $10B and $50B, depending on how much the recalls cost; estimates say at least $10B). The small remnant of Takata will eventually emerge from bankruptcy, basically for the sole purpose of continuing to deal with the recalls.
Salvo Jimmy
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Saw the same thing and it also indicated once recalls were satisfied, the air bag part would be shut down.
johnbt
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www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/06/26/takata-key-safety-systemss/428744001
"But who is Key Safety Systems? Here's what you need to know. The company:
Was acquired last year by Chinese automotive conglomerate Ningbo Joyson Electronic for $920 million.
The acquirer's three divisions are electronics and automation, automotive components and safety markets.
Has 13,000 employees worldwide working at 32 plants and technical centers.
Reported 2016 revenue of more than $1.8 billion.
Is lead by CEO Jason Luo, who has been with the company for 19 years.
Is now part of a growing venture. Ningbo Joyson Electronic has been on an acquisition spree. According to the China Business Daily, it has picked up assets including Preh GmbH, IMA Automation Amberg GmbH and Quin GmbH in Germany, and Evana Automation in the U.S."
"But who is Key Safety Systems? Here's what you need to know. The company:
Was acquired last year by Chinese automotive conglomerate Ningbo Joyson Electronic for $920 million.
The acquirer's three divisions are electronics and automation, automotive components and safety markets.
Has 13,000 employees worldwide working at 32 plants and technical centers.
Reported 2016 revenue of more than $1.8 billion.
Is lead by CEO Jason Luo, who has been with the company for 19 years.
Is now part of a growing venture. Ningbo Joyson Electronic has been on an acquisition spree. According to the China Business Daily, it has picked up assets including Preh GmbH, IMA Automation Amberg GmbH and Quin GmbH in Germany, and Evana Automation in the U.S."
orangeblue
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Ningbo Joyson is a huge conglomerate that owns various essentially independently operated entities, like KSS and TechniSat Digital (German satnav manufacturer).
wfo9
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If the entire dash has to come out.. That is going to suck big time for those of us with aftermarket wires running places..... I've had the glove box and portions of the dash out before and I thought I could access all the passenger airbags from there, but I could be wrong about the upper one.
I really hope these parts actually show up.
If someone gets one.
Also, this document did just update to show 2010 as remedy available. It was not showing that a few days ago.
https://techinfo.toyota.com/techInf.../prelogin/docs/cp/g0pg1pg0rg1rh0ah1atofaq.pdf
BTW, I still get this from the recall website... I'm wondering if 2010s in zone A see anything different.
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BlackWorksInc
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Is there any proof that Takata specifically designed and manufactuered units designed to fail? It smacks me more of a huge oversight in longevity, since most every vehicle these days isn't really designed or expected to live past it's "lifetime" which many manufacturers have set at or above about 100k.
I'm just curious here, because as far as I know it's more or less a huge oversight in technology vs. a malicious thing.
Well I'll tell you guys the same thing I told everyone who got their dashboards replaced in their 4th gens. If you have aftermarket wiring and stuff:
-Remove any aftermarket stuff you have
-Wrap, Tuck, and label your wiring
-Make it as stock as you can when you give it to the dealer
That way it's less likely to get rushed/messed up.
