Take the plunge?

Why people buy new (out side of because used isn't available) is beyond me. It's a losing battle

The difference from used with 36K miles and new is pretty damn small compared to most cars.

Same dealer in Glenwood Springs -

2012 SR5 Base (No nav or leather), 36K miles, $33K
2016 SR5 Premium, New, $38K

$5K for full warranty, 4 model years newer, and the SR5 Premium + Refresh perks is a pretty good deal compared to most Used/New car trade-offs.
 
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The difference from used with 36K miles and new is pretty damn small compared to most cars.

Same dealer in Glenwood Springs -

2012 SR5 Base (No nav or leather), 36K miles, $33K
2016 SR5 Premium, New, $38K

$5K for full warranty, 4 model years newer, and the SR5 Premium + Refresh perks is a pretty good deal compared to most Used/New car trade-offs.

I agree, on any other vehicle, I would buy used, but for the 4runner, I would buy new if I had the chance. The difference in price is neglible and the resale value is tremendous.
 
Why are Toyota 4x4s so expensive in the Pacific Northwest region?

Why people buy new (out side of because used isn't available) is beyond me. It's a losing battle

Used 4runners are so expensive that it is better to just buy new. I have seen 2011 SR5s with over 50k miles selling for over $30k...
 
I'd buy it! But only if they knock 1k off the price. Especially since it's a 2015, it's already a year old!
 
Why people buy new (out side of because used isn't available) is beyond me. It's a losing battle

I purchased my 04 in 07 for 20k. When I traded it in for the head gasket, there were used 2011s for 34k that shut is outrageous. I bought new because the price spread wasn't worth it
 
guys, if the used price is outrageous you need to find a better deal.
[MENTION=104049]marshal[/MENTION] and i each purchased used 5th gen Trail editions for great prices ~26-28k in 2014, IIRC. deals exist on used vehicles. find one. not sure if [MENTION=104049]marshal[/MENTION] 's truck is paid off but mine is and i own it and its mine and no matter what happens, its mine to do what i want with, to fart in as much as i want to. :biggrin1:
 
he is a fvcking idiot that sells people stupid books telling them to pay off small balances instead of the highest interest...

I actually agree with [MENTION=131488]ST1FLER[/MENTION] on this one, However I think his advise on debt elimination is structured around what physiologically gets people to actually do it (going after the small debt 1st so you seem to be making progress even if going after the higher interest rate is the financially better thing to do). Which if you get a 80% success ratio vs. 30% then that is the right answer and seeing how many Americans are overweight, smoke, live paycheck to paycheck enjoy 5 big gulps a day they clearly don’t get things that some of us see as “common sense” and straight forward. Sometimes you have to lose a battle to win the war…..his Investment advice IS sketchy and he overstates expected returns etc. Like debt elimination I think this is to help encourage people to save because with 12% return ( IIRC) you can get some staggering numbers saving a relatively small amount of money over 20-30 years and if it gets people to save that is more effective then being more conservative with say 6% and then having no one save because they don’t see the point. Life’s not hard to win you just need to save early and often, live below your means, avoid lifestyle creep (keeping up with the Jones) and get a marketable skill. Minimum wage jobs were never meant to support a family of 4. If you can learn your job in a week it is not a skilled trade, which is AOK and doesn’t make the people who work those jobs any worse or better then a CEO but when you expect to live a average lifestyle from those jobs I get irked! Maybe our schools could focus on teaching some useful life skills and parents could actually be parents instead of using schools as “day care”……….getting off the soap box
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guys, if the used price is outrageous you need to find a better deal.

[MENTION=104049]marshal[/MENTION] and i each purchased used 5th gen Trail editions for great prices ~26-28k in 2014, IIRC. deals exist on used vehicles. find one. not sure if [MENTION=104049]marshal[/MENTION] 's truck is paid off but mine is and i own it and its mine and no matter what happens, its mine to do what i want with, to fart in as much as i want to. :biggrin1:

Paid off!
 
guys, if the used price is outrageous you need to find a better deal.

[MENTION=104049]marshal[/MENTION] and i each purchased used 5th gen Trail editions for great prices ~26-28k in 2014, IIRC. deals exist on used vehicles. find one. not sure if [MENTION=104049]marshal[/MENTION] 's truck is paid off but mine is and i own it and its mine and no matter what happens, its mine to do what i want with, to fart in as much as i want to. :biggrin1:

I don't think anyone doubts that it is possible to get a good deal on a used 4R if you work at it hard enough. The main point is that the new 4Rs hold their value; you don't take as much of a hit on the usual new-car depreciation loss.
 
I bought a 2011 used trail with 60k miles and all options except nav for $26.5k. Complete toyota maintenance records.

My previous 4runners have been used and ran forever no problems. If feel safe even though used and no warranty.

I traded in my 08 which was paid off.

My payment for the used T4R is <$250 per month for 60 months where as a new trail was going to cost me $425 for 72 months.

It was a no brainer to go used for my situation.
 
I found what I've been looking for but I'm a little hesitant. Located a local to me 2015 magnetic gray trail with KDSS. Dealer is asking $39,700 but I'm sure there is a rebate or some wiggle room in the price. I would be trading in my base model 2007 jeep JK. As far as I can roughly estimate I would only have about $750 left over in my monthly budget after financing the new 4Runner. That's cutting it a little close for my liking. However I've got the fever BAD. Should I push this burning desire down or pour some gasoline on it.
Major question here... is that $750 being used to pay for everything else in your life (housing, food, utilities, etc.), or is it what's left over after paying for everything else plus the new truck? Huge difference between the two.

If it's [Income - 4Runner = $750], and that $750 is supposed to pay for gas, a roof, food, etc., then you would be stupid to make the trade. Stooopid. :der: :loco: :pray: :twitch: :pout: :faint2:

If it's [Income - 4Runner - necessities (food, roof, etc.) = $750] in cash to spend on entertainment and extras, then go for it if it's what you want.
:banana: :cheer2: :dancin: :rockon:
:party:
 
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Major question here... is that $750 being used to pay for everything else in your life (housing, food, utilities, etc.), or is it what's left over after paying for everything else plus the new truck? Huge difference between the two.

If it's [Income - 4Runner = $750], and that $750 is supposed to pay for gas, a roof, food, etc., then you would be stupid to make the trade. Stooopid. :der: :loco: :pray: :twitch: :pout: :faint2:

If it's [Income - 4Runner - necessities (food, roof, etc.) = $750] in cash to spend on entertainment and extras, then go for it if it's what you want.
:banana: :cheer2: :dancin: :rockon:
:party:


Nope that $750 is after mortgage, utilities, groceries and all other expenses.
 
Nope that $750 is after mortgage, utilities, groceries and all other expenses.
Then why are you asking? Go for it!

Also, put an extra $250/month into the payment (or more) to pay it off quicker. Then after 2-3 years you'll have a vehicle with no payments and no maintenance (Toyota reliability FTW!) that will last for another 10-15 years.
 

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