The Dealer May Have Broken My Truck!

[Ralph Blake]

Sorry if you feel i was berating you,i was just stating my thoughts as to what i feel happened.
I do hope the head gasket work was done correct and all will be good.
As for the 4wd item,let us know what really is the problem, and what is done to correct it.

 

[BlackWorksInc]

Your first mistake was taking your 4runner, to your Toyota Dealers stealer non service Dept. It would have been better IMHO to have found a good private repair garage to do this job.

As you are finding out Toyota Service Dept.s do not have qualified people, that understand many problems.
And they sure don't have really qualified people to do many jobs their asked to preform.
If you read the many threads people have written in this forum over the years,you will see it's not just a fluke that they fail many time to get things correct.
Since you took your 4runner to their service Dept. signed the form to allow them to preform the work,you are pretty much stuck paying for their work they preformed.
As far as this new problem with the 4wd,take your 4runner to another garage and get it corrected.

I don't exist? :moping:

Joking aside there are a larger number of "Flat Rate Mechanics" in dealerships than there are good ones, it's an unfortunate fact; unfortunately they same is also true of the independent scene as well. It's just the way the automotive industry has gone lately and it just seems to be getting worse.

All that being said, I can't imagine WHY they would have disconnected the 4WD ECU or Actuator as I believe the engine comes out easily from the top. But I would show them the following TSB and question if it is at all possible the technician failed to follow the procedure outlined. They'll probably balk and say they did everything right (and to be honest I would be inclined to believe them as I can't see a reason why they would have), but it is a possibility here.

View attachment T-DL001-04.pdf

 

[fdbyrne]

Thank you BlackWorksInc. I was hoping you would chime in.

The service advisor sent me this picture when the heads got put back on. Can you guys tell which terminal post they disconnected? With the blurry picture and no truck to compare it to, I can't tell.

It concerns me a little that they have an impact wrench set on the engine, and another on the battery. Not that it's related to this particular problem, but with an aluminum head, aluminum block, and specific torque specs to be used I can't think of what they would have been using an impact gun on during that part of the reassembly process.

 

[JB.]

I honestly don't know what they've tried yet but I got the feeling that it was actually in 4HI and the only thing preventing it from going into 4LO was that it wasn't in neutral.

Yes, don't assume the picture painted by the phone statement reflects the reality of the situation.

I'll bet if you went down there there's a good chance you could get in the truck, go through the 4wd routine, and find out everything is normal.

 

[Ralph Blake]

That is a very good question to ask about.

 

[RPS13]

The vehicle has no voltage if either terminal is disconnected.

Not sure why you're worried about an impact being on your engine - what is the issue with using that to zip out bolts? I am a DIY garage hack and I use cordless impacts 95% of the time on my own personal car that slings me around a racetrack at high speed. I can't possibly see an issue as a result.


If it were me, I'd personally go check out the vehicle to get the full story and see the actual behavior. You can tell them you're not accepting the vehicle back if you feel there's a problem they caused, but test driving it doesn't mean you're accepting it.

 

[fdbyrne]

I'm not worried about them using an impact wrench to take things apart, but this is the reassembly part where over torque can matter.

I'd like to go drive it, but getting there is difficult without a damn truck.

 

[Sungod]

I agree, I usually make my decision by cab on chassis construction and is either RWD or 4WD.

So you would call this a truck?

 

[flighht2k5]

So you would call this a truck?

Who cares.

 

[hearno]

So you would call this a truck?

That's actually a tank. We had one growing up.

 

[rooost]

A Truck

****mic drop****

2WD or 4WD...it has a frame ! and these days that is a truck

since so many foremer SUVs are now really Crossovers (aka tall cars) no frame, unibody...many FWD only...you can add to that list the "new Jeep Cherokee", the Ford Explorer, the so-called Nissan Pathfinder all now crossovers...

The only SUVs remaining are ? T4R FJ maybe those Chrysler products, and ofcouse the big monsters.


Open bed trucks are for people that:
1.) Load and unload constantly
2.) Trust that the public at large isnt going to steal their shit

 

[rooost]

So you would call this a truck?

I would call that more of a truck than the current Ford Station Wagons (Explorer/Edge/Escape)...My brother had an 79 F-100 that drove better than every after an engine swap with a vehicle very similar to the one pictured...

That wagon is like 80% 1982 F-150!

 

[flighht2k5]

I would call that more of a truck than the current Ford Station Wagons (Explorer/Edge/Escape)...My brother had an 79 F-100 that drove better than every after an engine swap with a vehicle very similar to the one pictured...



That wagon is like 80% 1982 F-150!

How about you guys start your own thread

 

[wyanrard]

So you would call this a truck?

I said cab on chassis, not land yacht on chassis!!! :cheers: haha.

 

[iBison]

So you would call this a truck?

That is a family truckster.

 

[DarenS]

How about you guys start your own thread

I agree. If you want to fight, take it to your own playhouse.

I will second the suggestion to document everything, up to and including recording conversations (if it's legal in your state). Many states only require one-party notification (you would be that one party), although it might be good to let the service adviser know you're recording. You may not need it, but if you do, it could save your butt in court.

United States Telephone Recording Laws

 

[Sungod]

That is a family truckster.

There is only one family truckster and it went to Wally World.

 

[Walkenvol]

So you would call this a truck?

My folks had one when I was a kid and hauled a huge camper all over the country...I only hope my Toyota truck can perform as well in that department.

 

[DarenS]

Sorry OP, we tried to keep your thread on track, but obviously some argument about a Ford wagon is more important than helping you solve your issue with the dealership.

 

[Ralph Blake]

Sorry OP, we tried to keep your thread on track, but obviously some argument about a Ford wagon is more important than helping you solve your issue with the dealership.

I was wondering if anyone else noticed,the thread being high jacked.