Toyota rim size Numbers....Misleading????

rigtec

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G'day forum team mates,

Over the last few months, I've enjoyed seeing quite a few people, "4Runner aficionados", and just some really proud owners of what they consider to be some of the best built S.U.V.'s available today,,,celebrating the delivery of their brand new, 5th gen. "Bundles of Joy"!!!

But almost like clockwork, one of the 1'st things that they'll do for their large scale acquisition, is to remove the O.E.,"Horse & Buggy" Wheels, only to purchase a tire, that's worthy of supporting such a High-end, $50,000 +/-, S.U.V. investment.

Now, just for clarity, I too have have replaced the O.E., Geolander G96B, 245/60/R20's to upscale to the much more widely recognized and proven, GoodYear Eagle LS-2, 275/55/R20 (All season); No lift, No rubbing, No problem!

But, there seems to be a bit of confusion wrt Toyota's rim size designations; Not the most logical or user friendly I.D. system. So, just for clarification:

The "7J" rims for instance. The 7, does not represent the width of the rim, but the series {as in 7 through 7.5"}. For example: A 7J X 17, as on the SR5 or the T.E. works out to be a rim that's 7" in width X 17" in diameter.

But the same 7J X 20 on an L.E., measures out to be 7.5 inches in width, and a 20" diameter. A 7.5" width, X 17" rim for an SR5, or T.E. will be expressed as, 7-1/2 J, stamped on the inside of the rim casting.

So, a 7J on an O.E., L.E. will be 7.5 inches wide and 20" in diameter (Not 7"); Hope this helps somebody, just for clarification.

rig, Cheers
 
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Usually, the JX does indicate rim width. I think the problem could be that you're measuring width at the lip, which is incorrect:

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50k? No. Investment? Definitely not.

On Limited, How's $43,000 + $4,500 in tx and D.M.V Regis & plates?? Getting close enough to round-off yet(+/-) ??? I just bought mine so I remember the pain; credit is ruined so had to pay cash.

At the time, Blizzard pearl was considered a special color, none just laying around on the lot, so it would be available only as special order. Very difficult to negotiate a vehical that their not already desperately trying to get rid of, but instead, had to locate one.

BTW, cute pooch!!!
 
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People using quotation marks incorrectly make me stabby.


If proper use of the written word were the absolute criteria here on this forum, there'd be about three people qualified to post; so I decided to post inspite of my inadequacy.

rigtec
 
Usually, the JX does indicate rim width. I think the problem could be that you're measuring width at the lip, which is incorrect:

997d1198205531-question-how-measure-wheel-width-rim.jpg


Hi KCcarguy,

I totally see your point! Being as unsure as I was about these oversize tires (275/55/R20), before the purchase, and all of my concerns about "rubbing, road noise, and bead seating safety issues",etc...., I was forced to make certain that the stock L.E. rim was 7.5 inches min.

All of my tire manufacturing candidates, eg....Bfg, Cooper, Michellin, Dunlap, and Gdyr, were crystal clear about the requirements for using a tire having a 275mm width; 7.5--9" rim width range ONLY. So all of my L.E.rim measurements were done through manufacturer data sheets.

Thanks for your input, and diagram...good work!

rigtec
 
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Glad to see I spent almost $20,000 less on my "investment".


Well, to be perfectly honest, I actually set out to buy a "Pre-owned", Toyota certified L.C., maybe something like a 2010 or '11. But when I saw the sticker price ($65-80,000), I just couldn't justify spending that kind of hard earned grip for my transportation needs.

After that, I had decided to settle for a pre-owned 2010 or '11 4Runner limited, in Bliz; which I saw going for $35 through $39, depending on mileage.

The problem was, I couldn't locate a 2010 or '11 in blizzard pearl in my area; saw some on the internet down south, but shipping or traveling would destroy my best price negotiating, so that wasn't happening.

After 2 months of searching, I just said, "That's it!!",,,I'm going to buy a brand new 2012 L.E. So i walked (didn't have a car at the time...long story), down to the local Toyota dealership, told the salesman what I wanted and asked him, how soon can you get it here. That was weds, 4/18. On Sat, 4/21 my new truck was there in the back, getting a bath.

So I felt like I saved money, not buying the Land Cruiser for $65,000!

rigtec
 
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Ouch! I walked out for right at 42k on my new '11 BP Limited a year ago this week. While I didn't pay cash for it, I did drive away with it just the same.
 
Ouch! I walked out for right at 42k on my new '11 BP Limited a year ago this week. While I didn't pay cash for it, I did drive away with it just the same.


Does that incl tax & regist fees? and, did you buy it in 2011, off the showroom floor?? could make a difference***out the door?!
 
I bought it off the showroom floor (literally, it was inside and they had to open the double doors to move it outside for the test drive) in early Nov, 2011.

I purchased from Carmax in Laurel, Md. Most people assume Carmax is used cars, but in fact, it is a NEW CAR Toyota dealership. No hassling. I went to a local dealership and showed them the price. I asked them to match and I would buy right there. They chose not to, so I drove the hr up there and bought it from Carmax
Search results at carmax.com

Additionally, Va has a 3% excise tax and not the full 5% sales tax.
 
Getting off topic

Okay, let me address this non-issue right now.

Maybe I didn't get the greatest deal that some of you were blessed enough to have gotten, but somehow, I was still able to get the truck that I really love.

Maybe now, we can get back to doing what we do best...like exchanging some POSITIVE support, or some new ideas for mods??!

Best regards, rigtec
 
I'm sorry. You paid too much IMO.

Didn't mean any disrespect though.:cheers:


No hard feelings Ant, guess I'm just having a bad day; got hit pretty hard with that hurricane (Sandy), here in NJ.

All is well here now though!

Cheers!!
 

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