toytec vs saw/icon - coilovers

kaceman

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so i wanna hear from the people that have have felt both out in runners, i have a line on some none rebuildable coilovers but im wondering if i should hold out for some rebuildable ones, whats everyones opinions?
 
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Well the Toytec's are $750, and the Icons'/SAW's are in the $1000 to $1100 range.

First off, I haven't rode in a vehicle with Toytec's, but the writing is on the wall for me: They are standard units. Bilstein shocks with a threaded ring for adjust-ability. Its essentially an adjustable spacer...

For $300 more, you get the real deal, albeit, you are also just dealing with an adjustable spacer for lift... But you have a solid unit with the ability to fine tune with nitrogen, and have rebuild abilities. Also, the 2.5" diameter of the Icon's do make a big difference.
 
I got my Saw's for about $750. they may have gone up slightly. I found great prices on eshocks.com They are $365 each right now (2.0's), and if you buy the tacoma ones you can get the extended travel version for a little more. And they have the 2.5's as well. I think for $750 you really cant beat the Sway away's. Toytec's ride good and all but they are not rebuildable or re valve-able. My last rebuild on my Saw's cost $100 for the pair. that included parts, labor, oil, and the charging. The adjustability has been great. and they should come with spanner wrenches
 
i went with icons over the OMEs anyday. the 2.5 does make a huge difference in handling and ride characteristics. if i knew the icons rode this good i would have opted for them along time ago.
 
It really depends on how you are going to use your truck. If you are going to be wheeling your truck heavily all the time or jumping your truck in the dunes, you may be better off with a coilover that you can rebuild. However, if you do not have the tools or the ability to rebuild the coilovers, you will have to send them in to get rebuilt which will mean down time on your truck. That might be fine if you have another car but mine is my daily driver so that wouldn't work for me.

Also, The rebuildable ones (Icon, SAW, King, ect) will have to be rebuilt every 30k miles or so just for maintenance while the non rebuildable ones (ToyTec, OME, ect) are maintenance free.

Basically, you should buy based on how you use your truck and not just because one is rebuildable or not.

The ToyTec do hold up to a pretty good amount of abuse too...

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i know a rebuildable is gonna be the way i should go, im just looking to see how close the bilsteins are to a 2.5 shock, and haven't seen any comparison info between the two. I have the tools for a rebuild not necessarily the technical know how.
 
I know for me, NOT having to worry about adjust ability and maintenance is a big concern. Install and forget.... other than the fact that I am going to have to swap coils once the armor starts to come. I do mainly expo trips with some technical stuff in-between, having shocks that are pretty much worry free is appealing to me because I don't have the time to constantly tinker with my shocks and the "set" unit shocks don't take as much of a beating from the salty winters up here. Threads on adjustable coilovers aren't very adjustable when they are rusted solid.

Mind you, if I lived in Socal like you and had tons of technical trail close by and some sand etc.... I would probably have gone rebuild able c/o for sure!
 
I have the All Pro coil overs. pretty much the same as toytec but with a softer spring/more comfortable. with normal driving, little off roading they should be good for at least 60k miles. While these are not rebuildable, you simply change out the bilstien shock portion for about $125 a peice.
 
I know for me, NOT having to worry about adjust ability and maintenance is a big concern. Install and forget.... other than the fact that I am going to have to swap coils once the armor starts to come. I do mainly expo trips with some technical stuff in-between, having shocks that are pretty much worry free is appealing to me because I don't have the time to constantly tinker with my shocks and the "set" unit shocks don't take as much of a beating from the salty winters up here. Threads on adjustable coilovers aren't very adjustable when they are rusted solid.

Mind you, if I lived in Socal like you and had tons of technical trail close by and some sand etc.... I would probably have gone rebuild able c/o for sure!

The Icons are pretty much install and forget it. The only time you need to tinker with the CO's are when you add weight and want to change the ride height. So in a sense, once you got armor you'll have to do more work now than you would had you installed a set of coilovers. I personally worry much less about having a quality 2.5" shock than having a mono-tube. Mono-tube shocks aren't nearly as durable. I've seen quite a few failed mono-tubes, but have yet to see a good coilover fail (not that it can't happen, just haven't seen once fail yet). As for the rough winters, Icon has the option to coat the shock bodies to prevent any corrosion so you can still adjust the ride height.
 
The Icons are pretty much install and forget it. The only time you need to tinker with the CO's are when you add weight and want to change the ride height. So in a sense, once you got armor you'll have to do more work now than you would had you installed a set of coilovers. I personally worry much less about having a quality 2.5" shock than having a mono-tube. Mono-tube shocks aren't nearly as durable. I've seen quite a few failed mono-tubes, but have yet to see a good coilover fail (not that it can't happen, just haven't seen once fail yet). As for the rough winters, Icon has the option to coat the shock bodies to prevent any corrosion so you can still adjust the ride height.

Oh, I agree totally. But for simplicity sake, the monotube is simpler. I did not know about the special coating from ICON. That is cool! That was always my main worry with them up here in the North.

Oh, and did I mention the cost difference being a benefit for me?? lol (in the short-term)
 
so i picked these up over the weekend, they are older downey coilovers. threw them on and they feel great, 700 lb springs they were cheap so ive decided to run them till i find some real coilovers
 

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so i picked these up over the weekend, they are older downey coilovers. threw them on and they feel great, 700 lb springs they were cheap so ive decided to run them till i find some real coilovers
Did you get these from someone in colorado by chance? I just ask because I saw a set just like these on craigslist for a while.
 

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