Windshield ticks, creaks, noises

that was the flap in the driver front wheel well it sounds more like.. just needed to be stretched out a little tighter

Can you direct me to this discussion, or was it in this thread and I missed it? I've got what sounds like a twig rattling in the dash appearing to come from the 8 o'clock position from the steering column and it may be this.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/127732-squeaking-noise-solved-my-2011-trail-edition.html

I found this^ thread too which I'll try (or it may be the same you're referencing). Thanks.
 
Can you direct me to this discussion, or was it in this thread and I missed it? I've got what sounds like a twig rattling in the dash appearing to come from the 8 o'clock position from the steering column and it may be this.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/127732-squeaking-noise-solved-my-2011-trail-edition.html

I found this^ thread too which I'll try (or it may be the same you're referencing). Thanks.

yep, that's the same thing i was talking about
 
At the dealer today for service...described the creak. Dealer "cannot replicate customer complaint". Come on, Toyota - give us a TSB for this one, please!
 
I think I found the source of the creak - the two attachment points for the fairing on the driver and passenger sides.

1) Open the hood and locate the attachment points for the fairing at either side.

2) Push up from the bottom to remove the center pins from the plastic grommets.

3) Remove both the pins and grommets from the attachment holes.

4) Take two pieces of two-sided foam tape and insert between the fairing and the mounting holes.

5) Press the plastic grommets back into the holes.

6) Re-insert the center pins to secure the fairing back in place.

My fairing had been rubbing and moving around, as is evident in the photo, which shows the passenger side mounting hole with the grommet and pin removed.

Hope this helps.
 

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Thanks, dubveeT4R.

In addition to what you found, I dug a little deeper to try to eradicate the nuisance ticking. I took the cowling completely off and did some poking and prodding on everything that could possibly be loose/make noise.

There's a wire harness that attaches to the opening above the cabin air filter that wiggled and ticked a little too much for my liking. A little silicone under that should suffice.

But I now believe the main culprit is the split plastic wire conduit that runs under the edge of the cowling across the top of the firewall. When you touch it, the edges of the split creak against each other, and the whole thing is just loose enough to tap against the firewall. The round brackets on the inside edge of the fender where it runs down also have plenty of play.

I wrapped the whole thing with electrical tape and put padded foam insulation behind it, then added a dab of silicone on all the loose brackets.

I also put foam insulation along every seam of the cowling when I put it back together.

So far, so good. Even at 24 degrees this morning I'm 95% tick free. The one place I did not put foam is where dubveeT4R mentioned - but that's quick and easy enough.

Some pics for reference:
 

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Nice work and write up. I am tick-free at the moment, but the real test will be when it's well below freezing outside (which is when the noise is most prevalent).

I also found the attached TSB for older 5th Gen vehicles. I wonder if Toyota re-designed any of the parts discussed therein, or just left as is.
 

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Yeah, I had already taken mine to the dealer to perform the TSB. Of course, they were unable to "replicate the issue" and blamed it on my roof rack, but allegedly did what the TSB says anyway. It obviously did me no good.
 
One of the pin/grommet combos that fastens the cowling in place keeps working loose in cold weather. I'm wondering if anyone knows the proper part number so I can order a few online..
 
The creak is worse...

This snap of cold weather has really made the creaking worse. It's pretty much constant on bumpy roads or uneven pavement. I installed new retaining pins/clips at the corners of the cowling (part number 90467-07211) and it seemed to help for a bit.

Is anyone else continuing to have this problem? It's pretty aggravating in a new vehicle with 15,000 miles on it.
 
Solved!

For anyone who is experiencing creaking coming from the dash area when it's cold and/or dry out, the source is the plastic windshield cowling. For the fix:

1) Remove the caps from the attachment points for the wipers with a small screwdriver. (Just pop them off.)

2) Remove wipers. (You will need a socket wrench.)

3) Remove rubber trim pieces at the base of both sides of the windshield.

4) Remove plastic trim pieces at either end of the cowling. (Push the center of the push pins down, you will hear a "pop", which will release the pins.)

5) Remove cowling.

6) Spray white lithium grease on all contact points for the cowling - one long strip where it attaches to the firewall, one long strip where it attaches to the base of the windshield and one strip in the middle of the cowling (underneath) where the pieces of the cowling attach to each other. Be liberal with the application.

7) Reassemble all.

8) For good measure, wrap foam tape around the plastic harness that cbettin highlighted in this thread where it makes the 90 degree turn on each side of the inner fenders. (There is a circular plastic retaining clip that I lined with foam.)

9) Enjoy your creak-free 4Runner.

Note - I have tried the fenderwell mudflap fix and the under the glovebox electrical attachment fix before this. Nothing worked until I greased the cowling. This is a 15-20 minute job, and well worth it.
 
Bringing this thread back from the dead for some poor soul like me who might have been at their wit's end on this thing. Short answer is that dubveeT4R's fix took care of what has been a year long debacle for me. In case you missed it...

For anyone who is experiencing creaking coming from the dash area when it's cold and/or dry out, the source is the plastic windshield cowling. For the fix:

1) Remove the caps from the attachment points for the wipers with a small screwdriver. (Just pop them off.)

2) Remove wipers. (You will need a socket wrench.)

3) Remove rubber trim pieces at the base of both sides of the windshield.

4) Remove plastic trim pieces at either end of the cowling. (Push the center of the push pins down, you will hear a "pop", which will release the pins.)

5) Remove cowling.

6) Spray white lithium grease on all contact points for the cowling - one long strip where it attaches to the firewall, one long strip where it attaches to the base of the windshield and one strip in the middle of the cowling (underneath) where the pieces of the cowling attach to each other. Be liberal with the application.

7) Reassemble all.

8) For good measure, wrap foam tape around the plastic harness that cbettin highlighted in this thread where it makes the 90 degree turn on each side of the inner fenders. (There is a circular plastic retaining clip that I lined with foam.)

9) Enjoy your creak-free 4Runner.


So... if you are still reading... here was everything I went to to get here...

Purchased a 2016 Limited in January of 2016. This was my 3rd 4Runner and the third one from this dealership. I work for another store in the dealer group (at one time was employed by Toyota), so you'd think this would have been an easier process than it was. Unfortunately not. Exact timeline is unsure, but here's how it went.

Purchase - Buy a 2016 Limited to replace a 2015 Limited. Had been driving 500 miles a month for work and wanted to get one with lower mileage after being relocated closer to home. 2015 had the same tick/creak but never really worried much about it because I knew I would trade it in. Drive the 2016 about 100 miles before the same windshield tick occurs.

Dealer Visit 1 - Advise dealer there is a tick from the windshield. Give super descriptive information (including speeds, temperatures, area of the windshield, driving patterns to duplicate, etc.) Advise dealer DO NOT remove the dash without my authorization. Technician calls that afternoon and says its figured out and fixed. Delivers vehicle back to me. Tick still present. Tech says drop it back off for the next day.

Dealer Visit 2 - Drop vehicle off next morning and wait for a call. At 5pm, no call, so I call dealer who advises that technician is off today so no one worked on it. Take a rental home and they will look at it the next day. Next day arrives and technician calls me in late afternoon to tell me it is fixed. Delivers vehicle down to me where the A pillar is covered in grease. There is now a noticeable gap in the dash near the a pillar as well as a bulge in the center of the dash at the base of the windshield. Technician says its from all of the noise insulating foam, but nevermind the look of it, the noise is gone. Technician had removed dash without my authorization (I'm a firm believer that once a dash comes out of a car it will NEVER be the same.) No problem, take vehicle home... noise still there.

Dealer Visit 3 - Drop car off at dealership again, request that a team leader (experienced technician) look at vehicle. That afternoon, same technician from before calls and asks if I'd like to ride with him because he thinks he has fixed the noise. Picks me up in vehicle with dash completely removed. Test drive together and noise still apparent. Requests I leave it overnight as an DTS (Dealer Technical Specialist) will be at dealership the next day for another vehicle and can look at it. Drive rental home. Hear nothing the next day, call to check and am told "DTS was here but didnt look at it. Technician was off today and didnt do anything with it. He'll be back tommorow and can put it back together and reschedule for DTS to look at it." Next day, tech comes in, brings car back (noise still apparent) and now there's an electrical interference noise when gas is applied. Tell dealer to let me know when DTS can look at it. Leave to go home and headlights dont work. Take vehicle back so technician can plug them back in where they were disconnected from dash. (Week later realize auto-headlights dont work either.)

Dealer Visit 4 Drop vehicle off so technician can remove dash for 4th or 5th time to hook up auto headlight sensor in dash that was left unplugged. Noise still very apparent upon return and new noise (electrical interference) promintent.

Weeks go by...

Dealer Visit 5 - After some not-so-pleasant calls and emails to the higher ups in our dealer group, DTS is scheduled to come and look at vehicle. I'm told he had been out about a week earlier and no one let me know. DTS advises "no problem found" on either noise.

Buyback Attempt - Pissed off about having a brand new 2016 with less than 1000 miles on it and a noise from the factory combined with a new noise and the dash being torn out of it, damaged while serviced, etc. I request that the dealer (not Toyota) take this vehicle back and put me in another. Dealer says thats not possible, etc. End up paying difference to trade out of vehicle into an identical one. Pay about $3k out of pocket to do so. Because it is my company, I wasn't going to make a huge stink about it, but hands down I was done wrong.

New Vehicle - Take delivery of another 2016 Limited after test driving and ensuring that this vehicle did not have the tick/rattle in it. Satisfied I take delivery. Approximately 500 miles later, the noise began and has been there since. Technician tightened body bolts from underneath after calling a friend who is an engineer from Toyota and noise seemed to quiet a bit. It wasnt until the last 1000 miles or so (currently have 13,000) that what was an occaisonal "tick" has become more of a constant creak during body flex.


LOOOONNNNGGGG STORY short - after the fix above (at least today) all evidence of noise appears to be gone. If it returns I will post again, but I have been dealing with this for MONTHS with no resolve and the above finally has seemed to fix it.

Its like an itch you cant scratch and finally someone comes along and gets it for you.
 
Any reason why my windshield would start squeaking after about an hour of driving on bumpy forest service roads and continue only for a couple days afterwards? It's happened twice now and all I can think of is that the glue holding the windshield gets loose and then rehardens by itself. Anyone else experience that?
 
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Check bottom plastic

For me it was the bottom of the windshield plastic cowl on drivers side just neededto push it to the left a bit ,but inside it sounded like ticking at the top of the windshield,
 
Just wanted to add in another potential reason and solution to a windshield tick. I've been chasing this one for over a year now and I finally got fed up enough with it to really look into the problem. This particular ticking noise was in the lower driver's side of the dash/windshield, and was quite noticeable when going over small bumps or anything else that could cause the windshield frame to flex slightly. I was able to dampen or stop the noise by applying pressure the the windshield in that corner. I tried many of the fixes listed in this thread - small trim piece in the windshield corner, pulled the wipers/entire cowl and cleaned/lubed everything, added padding between the cowl and push in fasteners, installed new push in fasteners, etc.

What finally solved it was just spraying a bit lubricant between the VIN plate rivets and the windshield. Had to remove the speaker grille for best access to get the spray where I wanted it. I don't really like using WD40 to fix things like this, but it worked! What I found is that those rivets essentially touch the windshield - it was so tight that I couldn't even pass a very thin stainless ruler between the rivets and the windshield. Despite the method, I'm very happy that the noise was gone... it was driving me crazy.
 

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