It's funny how we all have difference experiences at these dealers. James was terrible for me as to price/deal, so was Dayton. I ended up in Lawrenceville for the last 3 Toyota's, not only are they the closest but their price always started out better befor I did any haggling.
Here is how I purchase, I decide exactly want I want and then research prices for that vehicle/options, I also have financing in place at the cheapest bank I can find-financing is negotiable with a dealer. When I walk into a dealship I tell the salesman that I'm buying a vehicle today-not tomorrow, I know what I want and then I put an alarm clock on his desk-set to go off in 45 minutes. I tell him he has that amount of time to sell me it or I am gone for good(I don't include the final paperwork in that time). Knowing what you want eliminates them stalling you with options, knowing fair market value or what you want eliminates them fooling around with prices and again options. Giveing them a time limit and telling them you "are going to buy today" lets them know you are serious and they can't stall you to keep you from going somewhere else. I got up and left a salesman at James Toyota when the clock alarm went off, she was in mid-sentence(just B/S) and I left her speachless.
I'm sorry to the original poster but that $100.00 over invoice stuff is generally pure bull, does anyone think a dealer would only make $100.00 on a 25-30K item. Not if they wanted to stay in business.
Doug