Finally, a real competitor in 2017
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FourEyedWilly
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The problem is we are enthusiasts who get stiffies from these offerings but the other 95% of buyers do not want to pay the premium for stuff they will never use. I don't see GM offering up another SUV especially with this trim. They already have a full stable. They would self defeat themselves.
The real issue I see with this truck for the truck buyer is it's going to surpass the cost of a full size GM truck. I'd rather pony up for full size and mod away. I feel like that would be more the norm with those in this type of market.
I dig the truck a lot but I know we are enthusiasts not typical consumers. There are not enough of us.
gm350reratliff
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My thoughts exactly.
Lolrax
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You you're probably right, the big manufacturers already have so many crossovers and SUVs at this point it wouldn't make a lot of sense. Wishful thinking on my part LOL
I never lifted anything except with a jack or my back. But my guess is that ground clearance would be limited by the distance between the ground and the differential housing. Which would seemingly be uneffected by a suspension lift or body lift. It seems to me that only tire outer diameter size would alter this clearance point. But I'm kind of dense so I may be missing something...
fourwd1
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And Ford is following up the Ranger with a new Bronco (maybe based on the Ranger?)
So yeah, an SUV version of the Colorado could be possible, but then GM already has a bunch of SUVs.
mashburned
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I don't care enough to read about that truck, so excuse my ignorance while I make fun of gmc and ask who is going to be first in line for a brand new GMC vehicle??? Get a damn Tundra. Chevy "like a rock" my ass. Didn't they stop making the Colorado and then bring it back?
Aside from the new crossover Tacoma experiment, Toyota has been making rock solid trucks/SUVs for a long time.
This will probabaly appeal to all those millennials spending daddy's money to turn their Wranglers and 1500 in a daggum monster trucks so they can navigate those mean suburban streets.
Aside from the new crossover Tacoma experiment, Toyota has been making rock solid trucks/SUVs for a long time.
This will probabaly appeal to all those millennials spending daddy's money to turn their Wranglers and 1500 in a daggum monster trucks so they can navigate those mean suburban streets.
Thanks for your opinion but sorry cannot excuse your ignorance. :hug:
mashburned
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What would you pay for the zr2, Wally? 40? More?
4Rager
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When my friend was looking at Colorado's a year or so ago the Duramax was a ~$4,500. It's cool, but you gotta really want/need it for that much $.
mashburned
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:lmao:
mashburned
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So you'd happily buy it for just 20% off huh?
fourwd1
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Wait a bit and they will. GM is shutting down the production line next week to begin production of the 2018's later in July. Later this year will be the time to buy, at least for me.
People need to bring their biases up to date. Chevy vehicles, at least their trucks, are not the cheap, POS, soon-to-be rust piles that they were in years past. In fact, domestic trucks in general are fairly comparable to the famed, and arguably over-hyped, Toyota trucks and SUV's.
The Colorado has been out since 2012, and while it wasn't without it's issues (neither was the new Tacoma) it has proven to have a mostly reliable track record. The only "new" aspects about the ZR2 are the offroad suspension, lockers, and Duramax 2.8l inline 4 (which is actually a VM Motori designed engine that has seen extensive use in the global market since 2010). The emissions issues are still being refined, but even those are much more reliable than they were 7 years ago.
The ZR2 is a bold, and innovative, step forward by Chevy for a lot of different reasons. The rumored Ford Ranger will likely be another step in that direction. Even if they aren't always perfect, I applaud the domestic truck companies for at least trying to make vehicles that cater to the growing offroad/overlanding community. As of late, the most Toyota has done for the offroad crowd is put a set of bilsteins on their trucks, slap some decals and TRD bling bling on them and called it a day...I sincerely hope the new competition they're getting from domestic companies lights a fire under their butts and they start to innovate and push the envelope with the Tacoma (the ship may have sailed with with that one) and the 4runner.
I love Toyota's trucks and SUV's, but even so I can still appreciate good products by other companies. I hope, as I'm sure most other Toyota enthusiasts do, that these new vehicles create more competition and better quality among all of the manufacturers.
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I agree. I was holding out on a new truck until I could pile up a giant wad for a down payment, but also to see what Toyota's reaction to the ZR2 and Raptor was going to be. Unfortunately, my beloved Exploder exploded and forced my hand into buying the truck that was the bottom of my list...A TRD-OR Prem.
There's no denying that Toyota has rested on their laurels with the Taco and the 4Runner. That's what absolutely ZERO competition in a segment does. Compare the Colorado engine options with the Toyota line. Chevy is better, and that's that. Imagine a 4Runner with a Toyota built version equivalent to the 2.7L EcoBoost that Ford throws in the F150...
Not that I'll be in the market again for a few years, but I hope that Ford/Chevy (screw Dodge!) bring out an SUV that can compete with the Runner, as an enclosed cabin is a huge selling point for me. If there was a ZR2 Colorado based SUV on the market right now, I'm pretty sure it would be a Runner killer...
The "2.8 Duramax" better have fixed all of the VM problems! I lemon lawed a Jeep Liberty CRD due to that POS. The forum I was on at the time was FULL of problems!
I actually looked at the Colorado diesel as an option as well as the Tacoma before buying my T4R. The dealer wasn't willing to do much negotiation and the 2.8L scared me. The Toyota was overpriced compared to the T4R Trail I bought.
I actually looked at the Colorado diesel as an option as well as the Tacoma before buying my T4R. The dealer wasn't willing to do much negotiation and the 2.8L scared me. The Toyota was overpriced compared to the T4R Trail I bought.
