For those that fear mounting a wide tire on a narrow wheel

Already admitted that my front resis are for looks.
 

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if you have bypass shocks in the front, you have literally lit money on fire. i don't care what you think - its not possible for you to develop shock fade to a noticeable extent with the amount of travel available in the front end with remote reservoir shocks.

I think you mean external reservoir? Bypass shocks would be awesome. Especially if they are independently adjustable dampening for multiple areas in the shock stroke.

Totally agree about the remote reservoirs.. even though I have them. I'd gladly get rid of them. The Fox ones were a PITA to mount and get out of the way of the tire. I've been thinking about doing a rebuild at some point mostly to delete the reservoirs. But they look so cool!
 
It's clearly not a problem.... when you are within .5.... but the big chain tire shops don't always see it that way.
it's a liability. i won't do things requested by customers if it's outside of specs. 99.9% it'll be fine, sure, but that's not what matters. it's that one time the tire unseats.
 
Now let's talk about fitting some 35" MTs on a 5th gen... haha. Found an amazing deal on some nitto trail grapplers (basically half off msrp) but doubt I'll want to go through the trouble Marshall and demello went thru to fit that size.
 
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We used to mount 315's on dually wheels that were 6" wide all day. The worst problem I saw was uneven tire wear ( center tread was wearing faster). I always wanted to section one open and see how curled that bead was though. I personally had a few trucks with 285's on 7" wheels and one with 315's on a 7.5" wheel. Never had an issue. Where is [MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION] when we need him?!
 
We used to mount 315's on dually wheels that were 6" wide all day. The worst problem I saw was uneven tire wear ( center tread was wearing faster). I always wanted to section one open and see how curled that bead was though. I personally had a few trucks with 285's on 7" wheels and one with 315's on a 7.5" wheel. Never had an issue. Where is [MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION] when we need him?!

I've had 315s on my H3 with OEM 7.5" wheels for the last 5 years with absolutely no issues. I do a 5 tire rotation every 5k or so and the tread is wearing even on all the tires. I air down to about 15psi when I wheel and have never had a problem.
 
Like mentioned before, there is no true hard and fast rule here... It's really just guidelines, but as we all know...without guidelines people tend to do really stupid stuff.

I would have absolutely 0 concerns about a 285 on a 7" rim. I would also feel fine about a 35x12.5 on 7.5". In fact, many people run 35x12.5 on 7" rims. It's known as a poor mans beadlock and works really well offroad. BUT, your big tires stores won't do it and there is some possibility of odd tire wear and other problems if you don't keep the pressure correct on the road.

Bottom line, don't fear running out of spec (within reason) just be aware you may get some hassle... so if you are doing that look for a shop that is more open minded and not so "by the book"....
 
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We used to mount 315's on dually wheels that were 6" wide all day. The worst problem I saw was uneven tire wear ( center tread was wearing faster). I always wanted to section one open and see how curled that bead was though. I personally had a few trucks with 285's on 7" wheels and one with 315's on a 7.5" wheel. Never had an issue. Where is [MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION] when we need him?!

My opinion? I personally would run them all day long if I wanted.

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35 years ago if I owned a tire shop I would have had no problem mounting wide tires and narrow rims. I WAS one of those customers. I would just explain the manufacturer does not recommend it and you are on your own.

Today if I owned a tire shop I would NEVER mount a wide tire on narrow rim. Why? Because 35 years ago people accepted responsibility for their own actions. Now? We have a bunch of whiners (from my and current generation) who think nothing is ever their fault and sue people for fun and entertainment. Apparently the people from my generation who got picked last in gym class and were the prime target in dodge ball games decided that if they were going to be miserable in life they were going to make everyone else miserable too. Now we have one of the most F'd up societies America has ever had. Where else can you you sue someone for spilling hot coffee on yourself? Many people have a chip on their shoulder and think that it is ALWAYS someone else's fault. Never their own. And that kids is why you see all these butt hurt people making decisions. What's worse is we decided to elect some of them to congress and senate! Now we have CAFE, CARB and everything else because these people who....
(I had better stop now before I hurt some feelings)
rant off.
 
Where else can you you sue someone for spilling hot coffee on yourself? Many people have a chip on their shoulder and think that it is ALWAYS someone else's fault. Never their own.
funny, this is exactly what i was thinking while watching that video of the "mechanic" who found "major design problems" with the 4Runner Limited in the course of he and his co-pilot pal beating the crap out of its 4WD system on dry pavement. (i laughed so hard at the insipid co-pilot's parroting the driver: "no brake" ... "too much friction", etc.)

to think that guy had the stones (in his head) to post that crap, trying to video-shame Toyota into a lifetime warranty—to cover his own incompetence, presumably. honestly, some people.
 
My opinion? I personally would run them all day long if I wanted.

rant on:
35 years ago if I owned a tire shop I would have had no problem mounting wide tires and narrow rims. I WAS one of those customers. I would just explain the manufacturer does not recommend it and you are on your own.

Today if I owned a tire shop I would NEVER mount a wide tire on narrow rim. Why? Because 35 years ago people accepted responsibility for their own actions. Now? We have a bunch of whiners (from my and current generation) who think nothing is ever their fault and sue people for fun and entertainment. Apparently the people from my generation who got picked last in gym class and were the prime target in dodge ball games decided that if they were going to be miserable in life they were going to make everyone else miserable too. Now we have one of the most F'd up societies America has ever had. Where else can you you sue someone for spilling hot coffee on yourself? Many people have a chip on their shoulder and think that it is ALWAYS someone else's fault. Never their own. And that kids is why you see all these butt hurt people making decisions. What's worse is we decided to elect some of them to congress and senate! Now we have CAFE, CARB and everything else because these people who....
(I had better stop now before I hurt some feelings)
rant off.

Keep going. If you hurt some feelings with this then they probably are the ones you are talking about and deserve it.
:fish:
 
I think I'll sue the tire shop now for making me buy new rims, even though I wanted new ones anyways. Just because I was already planning on getting new rims to go with the tires doesn't mean they can take advantage of me like that. Please don't mention high school gym, square dancing, or dodge ball. My therapist says these are a few of my many trigger words that cause my insecurity that prevents me from being a product part of society. It is bad enough that I have to be constantly reminded that I didn't need to get the rims I bought every time I drive my 4runner. I may have to sue toyota as well. Just too much friction... :hurt:
 
also, a second point to be made

your stock travel suspension does not have the travel to warrant the replacement of the rear links with control arms that feature Johnny Joints and/or Heim ends. Further, the OEM ones are plenty strong and more than durable enough.

third point

if you have bypass shocks in the front, you have literally lit money on fire. i don't care what you think - its not possible for you to develop shock fade to a noticeable extent with the amount of travel available in the front end with remote reservoir shocks.
Second point: You're saying if you want a LT rear all you need are longer shocks and springs? No upgraded links or panhard?

Third point: Unless you upgrade to a TC Long travel (wide track) front suspension, you'll max out functionality and travel with a decent monotube extended-travel coilover plus a new UCA.

You are saying that for less than $2k you can for all practical purposes max out the suspension capabilities of a 4Runner (Icon +3 rear springs and shocks, extended travel front coilovers of choice, uniball UCAs, longer brake lines and ABS wires and such). That anything else would be purely for looks. Interesting.


And finally, that's not how to use the word "literally".
 

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