Magnuson Supercharger for 2010-Present & 2010-2014 FJ

[wfo9]

@WFO9

Checked today and don't see an option to get P/N of the ECM through TIS, gonna have to get it manually off the side of the ECM. Sorry mate.

Thanks so much for checking... Supposedly it's easy to get with any scanner. LOL Funny how the factory one does not have it....

Don't all 5th gens have the same ECU. Sort of wonder what the point of it is. Toyota never changes these things. just the calibration itself... right?

 

[wfo9]

Am I being dense? What's the point of a graph with no references?

Teasing us?

It's always so much more fun after being teased....LOL

 

[BlackWorksInc]

Thanks so much for checking... Supposedly it's easy to get with any scanner. LOL Funny how the factory one does not have it....

Don't all 5th gens have the same ECU. Sort of wonder what the point of it is. Toyota never changes these things. just the calibration itself... right?

Honestly never seen an aftermarket scanner pull a P/N off an ECM. It might be buried in an ancillary function of TIS Techstream, but I didn't see anything under "ECU Reprogramming", "Data List", and/or "Utility Sub-Menus for the module.

There are some subtle differences in P/N for ECMs, sometimes it's due to Trim/Package other times it's just a batch of various P/N for a specific year-range; I don't exactly know the differences. I do know it can be a huge variance though, we have the A0J recall for Corolla/Matrix/Rav4 and the sheet for ECM part number vs. which new ECM part number you need is about an entire page of just numbers.

 

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Honestly never seen an aftermarket scanner pull a P/N off an ECM. It might be buried in an ancillary function of TIS Techstream, but I didn't see anything under "ECU Reprogramming", "Data List", and/or "Utility Sub-Menus for the module.

There are some subtle differences in P/N for ECMs, sometimes it's due to Trim/Package other times it's just a batch of various P/N for a specific year-range; I don't exactly know the differences. I do know it can be a huge variance though, we have the A0J recall for Corolla/Matrix/Rav4 and the sheet for ECM part number vs. which new ECM part number you need is about an entire page of just numbers.

My launch brand scanner which is basically just a glorified code reader with data monitor capability displays the ECM number. At least it does on Nissan and Infiniti's. Haven't really tried it on other makes. I will hook it up to my 4runner when I get back to work to see if I can access the ECM number with it.

 

[BlackWorksInc]

My launch brand scanner which is basically just a glorified code reader with data monitor capability displays the ECM number. At least it does on Nissan and Infiniti's. Haven't really tried it on other makes. I will hook it up to my 4runner when I get back to work to see if I can access the ECM number with it.

Yeah let me know, I haven't seen one do it for a Toyota. It'll pull calibration data, but rarely do I see modules retaining part number information that's accessible via scantool. The only real exception to that is the head units, but I can pull that information through the service menu (not the scantool) in the headunit.

 

[wfo9]

Yea, if anyone knows an elm327 compatible scanner that can read it let me know... I tried the trial of odb auto doctor. It showed a calibration ID and verification number (as not available in trial) but it showed no part number info available. It's really confusing what exactly they want and how to read it since its not something the Toyota factory scanner provides..

Anyway, below is a pic of what they are asking for.
Latest email says over 400 people applied. I doubt they all provided this info LOL and I also doubt I have much of a chance, but worth a try.... I think they are surprised by the response overall. That is a ton of people interested in a pilot... but I bet 70% won't follow through when they ask for a credit card...

 

[flyboysgt]

Am I being dense? What's the point of a graph with no references?



Teasing us?

Yes it was posted as a tease. I may have cut that part off the description when I screen shot it.


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[oulaw]

want!

 

[wfo9]

FYI... After much digging into the OBD spec... the data is available via TIS and there is just possibly some mislabeling in their instructions...

There are two common calibration ID segments and they are referring to the first one as the ECM p/n.. (that is the part that really confused me)

Anyway, In TIS.. If you run a health check. You will get a display like the one attached... The first ID is what they are calling the ECM PN and the second one the Calibration ID.

Technically, they are both part of the calibration ID PID under mode 9 in the OBD spec. The command is 0904... That was about 5hrs of my time wasted...Hopefully this will save others time. Pic of TIS screen attached.

 

[wfo9]

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Questions for the day... If you can get answers.

1. Going back to stock. Will the kit prodive a mechanism to re-flash the ECU back to stock if the kit is removed and sold... How will this work for pilot users who send in their ECUs. Is the kit locked to the VIN?

2. Fuel pump. Is the stock fuel pump replaced or boosted as part of the kit?

I think these questions are important in how they relate to going back to stock if ever desired.

 

[THESS]

[MENTION=139149]THESS[/MENTION]

Questions for the day... If you can get answers.

1. Going back to stock. Will the kit prodive a mechanism to re-flash the ECU back to stock if the kit is removed and sold... How will this work for pilot users who send in their ECUs. Is the kit locked to the VIN?

Not that I am aware of. The kit will be assigned to the VIN of the owner and its ECM/CAL ID. Not all Runners have the same ECU throughout the years its been out.

2. Fuel pump. Is the stock fuel pump replaced or boosted as part of the kit?

Stock is utilized.

I think these questions are important in how they relate to going back to stock if ever desired.

Please see answers above

 

[THESS]

Good Morning All,

It was a very successful end of week. The kit is making great power. I was present for the dyno and it is a very smooth power curve on a reliable amount of boost. Please keep an eye out in your inboxes. Images/Video to come.

 

[THESS]

Thanks so much for checking... Supposedly it's easy to get with any scanner. LOL Funny how the factory one does not have it....

Don't all 5th gens have the same ECU. Sort of wonder what the point of it is. Toyota never changes these things. just the calibration itself... right?

Not all 5th Gens are calibrated the same. Hence the CAL ID. Most scanners may pull up two separate CAL ID and those would be the ones to post.

 

[wfo9]

Now that the kit looks to be happening for real. I'm going to start setting up my truck for it.

My plan is to run the AEM failsafe AFR WB gauge. This is a pretty nifty device for boosted apps.
-It allows for 20hz continuous data logging (RPM, Boost, AFR)
-It displays AFR and boost on the gauge itself
-It has configurable failsafes where you can trigger a ground at an point if things are out of a configured range.
-It is an actual WB controller and includes the sensor.

I've already got an extra bung welded into my crossover pipe for it.

I'll probably start with some simple bright LED if boost over x and AFR over Y. this is just good to have in case something like FP drops unexpectedly. It could be setup to flip the IAT signal to kill timing.... but probably not necessary at such a mild boost level.

It's not cheap @ $300, but I like having data... and knowing exactly what is going on at all times... not to mention being able to go back in time and view rolling log data if there was an anomaly.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NDBgSJwzIyE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I also ordered one of these to mount it.
Link: http://a.co/7epyHWc

 

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Yeah let me know, I haven't seen one do it for a Toyota. It'll pull calibration data, but rarely do I see modules retaining part number information that's accessible via scantool. The only real exception to that is the head units, but I can pull that information through the service menu (not the scantool) in the headunit.

I hooked up my Launch scan tool to my truck today and these were the ECM numbers that I was able to gather.

CID1: 335F5000
CID2: 53524000

I believe the first number is the ECM number.

I guess it all depends on the scan tool

 

[BlackWorksInc]

I hooked up my Launch scan tool to my truck today and these were the ECM numbers that I was able to gather.

CID1: 335F5000
CID2: 53524000

I believe the first number is the ECM number.

I guess it all depends on the scan tool

Could be a sub-calibration as well. Some modules have one or more sub-calibrations (what they actually are/mean I couldn't entirely tell you), usually you'll see them listed in order of important (i.e. Main is always 1)

 

[pat1]

Now that the kit looks to be happening for real. I'm going to start setting up my truck for it.

My plan is to run the AEM failsafe AFR WB gauge. This is a pretty nifty device for boosted apps.
-It allows for 20hz continuous data logging (RPM, Boost, AFR)
-It displays AFR and boost on the gauge itself
-It has configurable failsafes where you can trigger a ground at an point if things are out of a configured range.
-It is an actual WB controller and includes the sensor.

I've already got an extra bung welded into my crossover pipe for it.

I'll probably start with some simple bright LED if boost over x and AFR over Y. this is just good to have in case something like FP drops unexpectedly. It could be setup to flip the IAT signal to kill timing.... but probably not necessary at such a mild boost level.

It's not cheap @ $300, but I like having data... and knowing exactly what is going on at all times... not to mention being able to go back in time and view rolling log data if there was an anomaly.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NDBgSJwzIyE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I also ordered one of these to mount it.
Link: http://a.co/7epyHWc

You don't need to drill and weld o2 bungs. The top factory o2 sensors are widebands. If you know what you're doing you can tap in to them. Grab the factory wiring diagram and go for it. Tap into it right at the PCM. And you could monitor both sides with a switch at the gauge. But we all know once the wideband see lean it's usually too late.

 

[wfo9]

You don't need to drill and weld o2 bungs. The top factory o2 sensors are widebands. If you know what you're doing you can tap in to them. Grab the factory wiring diagram and go for it. Tap into it right at the PCM. And you could monitor both sides with a switch at the gauge. But we all know once the wideband see lean it's usually too late.

Good point. I guess you could try monitoring the factory WBs, but the signal may very well be different and not display properly on a gauge... I would rather have another sensor and controller at this point.

It typically won't be too late IMHO. If you are driving around with blips of lean under boost and don't know it... you will blow the motor. Having data is key. I've had a lot of boosted vehicles and had the WB save my motor several times due to malfunctions in things like (fuel pump, alcohol injection solenoid, voltage booster for fuel pump, bad tune, contaminated MAF). This mag kit should be stable under low boost... but things change under different conditions.. I've seen simple stuff like a vehicle idling for hours cause the heat in the fuel to completely kill the fuel pump efficiency to the point that things would go very lean.

Anyway, it's more for just peace of mind while feeling it out. Once I feel comfortable with it.. I probably won't monitor any data and it will just be there for the idiot light.

 

[THESS]

Dyno Numbers

Pulled 336whp/301 ft lbs. may have a little more to go. Stay tuned and keep an eye on your inboxes.

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