mountain mike
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Pic of the skid. Not the best, but you can see how much it covers.
Panhard bar question
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Pic of the skid. Not the best, but you can see how much it covers.
Tyler James Inc
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Looks great [MENTION=108156]mountain mike[/MENTION] !
The tubing he added... is it a sleeve that is welded to the new bracket, and bolted into the lower bracket? That would let you not be able to use the lower hole- not likely to ever happen- but that's a solid idea for guys worried about the butt-joint [emoji1360]
Hey [MENTION=28464]eimkeith[/MENTION] you see this? [emoji12]
The tubing he added... is it a sleeve that is welded to the new bracket, and bolted into the lower bracket? That would let you not be able to use the lower hole- not likely to ever happen- but that's a solid idea for guys worried about the butt-joint [emoji1360]
Hey [MENTION=28464]eimkeith[/MENTION] you see this? [emoji12]
jkeith.w
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a crush sleeve for the original pivot bolt hole, correct? - his concern was the walls of the original mount spreading without the bolt tying it together?
jkeith.w
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Looks great [MENTION=108156]mountain mike[/MENTION] !
Hey [MENTION=28464]eimkeith[/MENTION] you see this? [emoji12]
LOL, clearly not the aftermarket bar I've seen! Whose bar is that?
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mountain mike
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poopypants
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toytec uses heim joint ends?
mountain mike
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Yes, and I have heard about people having problems with them after some time. If they ever get noisy I will replace them with something from FK or at least that is what my shop recommended that I do.
JayRolla
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Thats why I went with a SS using poly bushings.
Snowden
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Finally got my [MENTION=28464]eimkeith[/MENTION] PLB/PDB installed. The fit was perfect. So am I imagining things here... I was not expecting a even a straight line drive on the freeway to feel better but it did.
Seems like I was experiencing back end lateral motion (wobble) more than I realized before installing these. I was paying particular attention to the handling characteristics on the 22 miles to my welder guy. And on the way home the rig just seeemd remarkably more stable. Thanks Keith!!
If 'lifted' guys haven't pulled the trigger on a set of these brackets you should look into it.
First picture was a Before of my bar but the lighting was not cooperating at the shop sorry it's so dark. Second photo is the After.
Seems like I was experiencing back end lateral motion (wobble) more than I realized before installing these. I was paying particular attention to the handling characteristics on the 22 miles to my welder guy. And on the way home the rig just seeemd remarkably more stable. Thanks Keith!!
If 'lifted' guys haven't pulled the trigger on a set of these brackets you should look into it.
First picture was a Before of my bar but the lighting was not cooperating at the shop sorry it's so dark. Second photo is the After.
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I purchased a set of these brackets from [MENTION=28464]eimkeith[/MENTION] to assist me with the custom 4-link Ive been building on my 2000 Highlander "Rock Runner" build, which will have a 5VZ, 5 speed, 10 lbs of boost, triple sticks, and 35's hopefully by spring.
To stretch the axle back and gain clearance at the rear doors for the tires, I made some .250 DOM links with 7/8" heims on one end. I was initially going to just fabricate a lift bracket for the axle side to reuse the stock PH bar and raise the RC, but that was pushing the differential flange into the fuel tank skid HARD before the shock bottomed out while flexing. No matter how far over I leaned the bracket to pull the axle to the passenger side, it still hit, and I was stumped.
I found this thread last week and ordered a kit, and after installing it this evening, I am very impressed. I had to open the axle bracket a bit as others have noticed, but that was the only modification needed. Now under full flex with the 4R off the jack stands the flange still touches the skid, but I can spin it by hand. This has solved all my 4-link woes, and Ill be able to wrap up my rear suspension much faster than I thought.
A big thanks to eimkeith for the design and production of these brackets, and I hope next time I build a Runner these will still be available. These take all the guess work out of a custom rear setup!
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Coward
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How do you like those Firestone MT's? How many miles, what size, how loud, and would you buy them again? Thanks
Snowden
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I like them a lot but FWIW I do not daily drive my Runner. Size is 285/75/16. No rubbing with my build set up. They are E rated but this does not bother me, I prefer a stiffer ride quality. No issues with air-down to 18lbs.
How loud...(?). Louder than a street tire naturally. Not annoyingly but it is a 4x4 and these are mud terrain tires so what is expected. I can carry on a conversation in the cab or listen to the stereo if that's what you mean. I highway 3+ hours to good off-road trail and I do not suffer from any deafening drone. Yes I would buy them again in this design and style.
Originally I had decided on the Cooper Discoverers but just before purchase Cooper then changed the design to a more aggressive side wall (like a GY Duratrac) which I did not like. What I liked about the Firestone and Coopers is that you don't see much of these in California. People here tend to go with BF Goodrich or Goodyear for the most part.
Off-road they have been great so far. I get plenty of traction both mud and rock as far as I can tell. My Runner is spoiled so I don't have any significant rain driving to report sorry. But reviews I had read prior to purchase about rain handling was superior enough for me not to worry about it.
Coward
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I am about to replace my tires and was thinking about a MT this time. After 350k miles and 8 sets of Bridgestone AT's (6 of those were REVO 1 or 2) I am sold on the Firestone/Bridgestone brand. I ran a set of the older Firestone MT's about 17 years ago on a full size truck and was very happy. I expect some noise but even back then the MT's weren't bad at all. I appreciate the feedback.
poopypants
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Which cooper discoverer were you referring to? They have like 3 with mt style tread...
AssBurns
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This thread has almost 600 replies and you are asking a basic question that has been answered dozens of times throughout the thread...
jstim
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I read the first 5 pages, skimmed a bunch and read the last 4 ish. What I took from what I seen are a lot of opinions on what works. I'm running the adjustable, and it doesn't always feel right. I'm just trying to make sure I'm on the correct track. So, don't worry about it, I'll spend the next couple days as I have time reading the whole thing so I can get all the info I need.
theesotericone
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Order the newish panhard correction kit. It's a weld on drop bracket bracket and a lift bracket. It is orders of magnitude better than any other solutions at this point IMO. I still need to order one up as my ass end loves to jump around on washboards as well. Tires and rims forst though. lol
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AssBurns
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My bad. I sounded like a complete dick. I figured you just didn't read anything. Now I realize there is a whole lot of crap to read through to get the right answers.
The panhard correction kit in the post above corrects the angle of the panhard bar at ride height, therefore reducing the side to side sway as the rear suspension cycles. It also helps reduce body roll more than just a regular drop bracket by raising the axle side bracket too (increasing roll center height). The only thing that the adjustable panhard bar is good for is re-centering the axle, not correcting anything else. The PHC kit actually brings the axle back to center by leveling the panhard bar at ride height like it was supposed to be from the factory. Order the kit, it will be worth the investment.
The panhard correction kit in the post above corrects the angle of the panhard bar at ride height, therefore reducing the side to side sway as the rear suspension cycles. It also helps reduce body roll more than just a regular drop bracket by raising the axle side bracket too (increasing roll center height). The only thing that the adjustable panhard bar is good for is re-centering the axle, not correcting anything else. The PHC kit actually brings the axle back to center by leveling the panhard bar at ride height like it was supposed to be from the factory. Order the kit, it will be worth the investment.
