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Click-only, No -Crank: How to Test If Starter Solenoid and Starter Motor work

I covered the root cause of click-only, no-crank for 1984-1988 22R-E's thoroughly, but some people may not have the patience to read the whole post, and it helps others to troubleshoot one little part at a time so here's how to check if starter solenoid is doing its job:

Verify that THICK positive battery cable to starter and ground connection to block are good. Good electrical connection means bare, shiny metal contacting bare, shiny metal. If you don't have that, fix it then we'll talk.

Put gear in neutral.

Disconnect this spade connector for starter solenoid COIL:
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Crimp/solder a 1/4-inch female spade terminal to one end of 12AWG wire long enough to reach between this^^^ solenoid connector and battery.

Connect this female spade connector to the male spade terminal on starter solenoid connector.
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Run the 12AWG back near the battery positive.

Verify that truck is in neutral. YES CHECK AGAIN.

Momentarily touch other end of the wire to battery positive post. Expect a spark.

Solenoid should clunk energetically and starter motor should run.

IF solenoid clunks energetically but starter motor does not run, suspect bad starter solenoid contacts.

IF you get the favorable outcome above, test with starter relay connected normally. IF this does not get starter solenoid to clunk energetically and turn the motor on, suspect/fix the starter relay and/or wiring. Remember that the starter relay on 1984-1989 22R's/22R-E's, if present, was wired wrong from the factory. Combination of smooth solenoid operation, good, thick solenoid contacts, healthy battery, light solenoid return spring, etc could mask the problem. List of affected models is here.
 
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How to Verify If Starter Relay is Wired Wrong, 1986 to 1989 4Runner AND OTHERS?

The starter relay on 1984-1989 22R's/22R-E's (and possibly other models), if present, was wired wrong at the factory. Combination of smooth solenoid operation, good, thick solenoid contacts, healthy battery, light solenoid return spring, etc could mask the problem. List of affected models is here.

How to Verify If Starter Relay is Wired Wrong, 1986 to 1989 4Runner and possibly other models:
MULTI-METER SETUP:
VOLTS DC, BLACK TEST LEAD TO BATT NEGATIVE RED TEST LEAD TO TEST POINT ON RELAY CONNECTOR:
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PHYSICAL SETUP:
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PROBE EACH PIN ON RELAY CONNECTOR:
(PIN1 WOULD REQUIRE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SETUP.)
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Starter Solenoid Current Flows Compared

Starter Solenoid Current Flow on 1986 to 1989 4Runner 22RE manual with wrongly-wired or absent starter relay and properly-wired/retrofited (i.e., with Hotshot) starter relay.
Improper wiring of starter relay OR absence of starter relay:
1) Makes current to go over a long path, causing too much power loss,
2) Subjects the ign switch ST1 contacts to excessive current, and defeats the purpose of adding a starter relay, AND/OR
3) Subjects the neutral safety switch to to excessive current

SOLENOID CURRENT PATH ON AUTO TRANSMISSION WITHOUT A STARTER RELAY:
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SOLENOID CURRENT WITH WRONG STARTER RELAY WIRING:
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SOLENOID ON 1991 22R-E MANUAL (i.e., JPL's on Yotatech):
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SOLENOID CURRENT WITH PROPER STARTER RELAY WIRING (OR RETROFITTED):
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HERE, FIX IT.
AND ALSO VERIFY that starter motor, starter solenoid and contact are working well HERE
 
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Wrong Starter Relay Wiring: Affected Models Documented

Wrong Starter Relay Wiring: Affected Models Documented

1986 22RE Manual (rad4runner's printed FSM ):
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1988 22RE Manual (From FSM PDF):
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1989, 22RE, Manual (cr@ves4wheelin@yotatech):
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1990 Toyota 4R, 3VZE, AT, V6, 4WD. (Hadia's thread here)
Auto tranmission has no starter relay, Manual transmission's starter relay is wired wrong FROM THE FACTORY
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HERE, FIX IT.
AND ALSO VERIFY that starter motor, starter solenoid and contact are working well HERE
 
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No chance.....

LOL! Thanks, guys!
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[MENTION=80771]RAD4Runner[/MENTION],
I just signed up for this forum so that I could say thanks for your commitment and knowledge posted in this thread.
I've recently purchased an 87 4Runner and it had the starter wiring defect, which I've already corrected thanks to this thread.

Dave
 
[MENTION=80771]RAD4Runner[/MENTION],
I just signed up for this forum so that I could say thanks for your commitment and knowledge posted in this thread.
I've recently purchased an 87 4Runner and it had the starter wiring defect, which I've already corrected thanks to this thread.
Dave

Welcome to the forum, Dave. First-gen FTW... but pics or you're faking it - LOL!

Easy, cheap mod- huh? Certainly easier than installing a hotshot relay. Of course, if you did not have a starter relay, no choice but to add one. Please share pics of that? How you ran your wires, where you mounted fuse, etc.
Please keep us posted on your project, and happy summer.
 
Welcome to the forum, Dave. First-gen FTW... but pics or you're faking it - LOL!

Easy, cheap mod- huh? Certainly easier than installing a hotshot relay. Of course, if you did not have a starter relay, no choice but to add one. Please share pics of that? How you ran your wires, where you mounted fuse, etc.
Please keep us posted on your project, and happy summer.

No pics of my starter wiring mod ATM, but here is a fairly nice pic,
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Easy, cheap mod- huh? Certainly easier than installing a hotshot relay. Of course, if you did not have a starter relay, no choice but to add one. Please share pics of that? How you ran your wires, where you mounted fuse, etc.

This is not a great pic, but it shows where my wires and fuse are.

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I decided not to try wiring in under the fusebox into the fusible link wire.
My power is supplied to Pin 4 of the starter relay connector from a direct to battery connection (one of the red 12 guage wires) to the New Fuse (30amp) mounted to the side behind the starter relay, then connected to the Black wire on the connector.
The other extra wiring is a previous owner installed fog light relay setup with an inline fuse behind the battery.
 
No pics of my starter wiring mod ATM, but here is a fairly nice pic,
519efXQ.jpg

OOOOOOOH! Looks clean!

This is not a great pic, but it shows where my wires and fuse are...
I decided not to try wiring in under the fusebox into the fusible link wire.

Nice. Yeah, direct to fused wire from battery is less work and safer than how I did mine.
Thanks, Dave!
 
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How to Verify If Starter Relay is Wired Correctly on 1990-1995 4Runner

I trust Toyota but I always like to verify...
How to Verify If Starter Relay is Wired Correctly on 1990-1995 4Runner

Starter relay is on Relay Block 1 (R/B2) in engine compartment:
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Here's the schematic:
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Voltage & continuity checks:
Pin 1 (black wire) should only have 12V when ign is in Start position.
Pin 2 (black-red) should only provide ground IF clutch is depressed OR IF clutch safety cancel is activated.
Pin 3 should have continuity to starter solenoid control wire (here), AND should have 12V when ign switch is turned to start and starter relay clicks. This 12V should also be seen at starter solenoid control wire.
Pin 5 should always have 12V even if ignition switch is OFF.
 
Removed and Replaced Rear Brake Shoes.

Thanks to the folks on Yotatech for their inputs!

Understanding that most of the braking is done by fronts, and being on a tight budget, I checked out the less expensive and the only one available yesterday NAPA brake shoes, I stopped by NAPA. They're labeled as "made in the U.S.A., the metal part (core?) is stamped "HOSEI" like the ones on the truck, and another metal part stamped "Canada". Heck, Russian, or Mexico is OK. Just don't want to touch anything made in the communist Bully of Asia. So... NAPA for $15 plus core it is.

These are the only tools I used:
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12-mm bolts to help push the drum off the hub.
I could have gone away with just the vise-grips or the long-nose pliers but it's much secure to handle the shoe hold-down spring cups with wider jaws. Worst challenge was to not lose the clip rings. Next, was taking off and re-installing the return spring just with my vise-grips and a skinny screwdriver (Still better that having to add tools that I very seldom use to my kit).

Before:
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After - Not bad for 31-year old truck, huh?
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NOT MADE IN THE F53*&%G COMMUNIST BULLY OF ASIA!
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the core with hosei looks to be oem. in any event, the shoes were probably remanufactured in the usa. sandblasted the cores, and added the linings. stick in a box.

i've used my brake tools dozens of times, on multiple vehicles, over at least 15 years.
 
Those rears are amazingly clean for the age. Seeing that your linings were close to the 1mm minimum, I should check mine to see how worn they are.
 

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