"You can make it clearer by not stating an "out the door" price when most people know that as the total vehicle price including tax, tags, and fees. Pretty simple, huh?"
Even Steven; Sorry man it does sound like you're attacking this guy for something so stupid. Dang dude, let it go! Was that not HIS OTD price? You know, the door at the dealership that you're using for a guideline? Who made you the definition guru? He said on the first line, excluding taxes. How much clearer does someone have to be? Where'd you get your definition of OTD and it's parameters? It's not listed on wikipedia. Give the guy a break! And who are these "MOST PEOPLE"? How many did you query for this statistic? Most people might have been a bit more welcoming to a new member! Most people wouldn't be such an ass to a stranger. If the question was too difficult for you give a civil reply, then you should have moved on to another post! Ya think?
I'm not sure if that's the way to welcome a new member to a forum but in my book, it's not playing well with others! I don't know you, and haven't been a member here long myself, but my opinion of you is not flattering. It's that whole first impression thing. It sounds like you're the only here with "their panites in a knot"!
My OTD price for 2007 V8 Limited 4x4 was $38,900. ( we don't see a lot of 4x2's in Colorado) Sticker was $42,849. We pay 8.1% tax in Denver not to mention dealer fees. Tags are paid 45-90 days later. I imagine they'll be close to $700 for the year. I don't care if anyone thinks I got a good deal or not. The deal is done! My insurance is going to run me about $1200 a year. I can claim my taxes paid at the end of the year so in reality, maybe I didn't pay an actual $3150. Tags can also be deducted. I just would hate to indicate an unaccurate OTD price because maybe you meant OUT MY DOOR! I'd hate to piss anyone off here on the forum because they didn't understand what I was trying to imply.
This is my 4th 4 Runner over the past 15 years. 1991,1998.2005, and my current 2007. I might not be able to tell you the OTD price on any, but I can tell you if the 91 wasn't so great, the next 3 would have been something else.
I just get so tired of arrogant "forum" members!
Even Steven, What was your OTD price?