How To: Make Your Own Rear O2 Simulator for $5

Hi all, I've been dealing with a check engine light on a 2000 Cali emissions car.
It had a lean run fault and o2 sensor heater fault. Cleaned the air mass sensor and replaced the rear o2 sensor. Then the damn P0240 fault appeared. It wasn't there before. After some research I did this resistor/cap install and now can't get the system to do the drive cycle just like Jszeszko. I can usually get a car to complete it easily. Anyone go through this and find a solution. I might try and unplug the rear sensor and see if it will complete the drive cycle but doubt it will with it unplugged.
 
Hi all. I have a 1995 4 runner with 65000 original miles . Would this fix work on it? It was two ox sensors on it.
thanks all
 
Hi Guys , I just tried this modification on my 2002 Toyota 4Runner. I actually used a 4.7microfarad capacitor and the 1M-Ohm resistor. Prior to this modification the o2 sensor monitor always set easily and the catalyst threw the p0420 code. Afterwords, the catalyst monitor set, however the computer threw the p0136 code. This apparently means that: "(The P0136 code is set when the Engine Control Module (ECM) detects that the rear O2 sensor signal voltage is out of range for an extended period of time)".

Do you have any input on what I can do to correct this? Could the different capacitor have messed with the data?

Thanks
 
Before I get into describing how to build your own rear O2 simulator, I just want to say that I did not come up with this mod on my own. You can search Google and find all kinds of write-ups describing this method. However, I didn't see any write-ups here on T4R, and since many of us suffer from the P0420 disease, I figured I'd share it here as well.

I also apologize for the lack of pictures. I didn't think about posting this write-up until everything was put together and installed on my rig. I encourage other people who do this mod to take pictures along the way and post them up.

You will need to have a working rear O2 sensor for this spoof to work. By "working" I mean that all you have to have is an O2 sensor that's putting out some kind of signal. You're O2 sensor can still be "bad" (putting out bogus signals), but as long as it's putting out something, we can modify it and fool the ECU into thinking that the rear O2 is okay, and that the catalytic converter is working like it should be (even if you don't have one). This method is far cheaper than replacing the rear O2, and is MUCH MUCH cheaper than replacing your catalytic converter.

DO NOT DO THIS MOD TO YOUR FRONT OXYGEN SENSOR. ONLY DO THIS TO THE REAR ONE.

Before you get started, you'll need to run to RadioShack and pick up two items:

A 1 Microfarad (1μF) Capacitor - RadioShack part number 272-1055
A 1 Mega ohm (1MΩ) Resistor - RadioShack part number 271-1134

This should cost around $5 or $6.

Step 1: This step isn't required, but it will make things easier. Unbolt the rear oxygen sensor from the exhaust pipe, which is held on by two 12mm nuts. Then disconnect the rear O2 sensor pigtail from the main wiring harness. With the rear O2 sensor completely removed, you can modify it on your work table or where ever you want, instead of cutting and splicing while underneath your rig.

Step 2: Cut the blue and white wires on the oxygen sensor. Leave the two black wires alone, they are part of the heater circuit and we don't want to mess with that. I chose to cut the blue and white wires halfway between the sensor element and the plug connector. Wire in the resistor and capacitor as shown below. I chose to use heat shrink butt connectors, however if you want to use another method such as soldering, crimping, etc. then that's completely up to you. Use whatever method you like. Just make sure it looks like this:

2enatuva.jpg


You'll notice that I have the first diagram labeled "incorrect" and the second one labeled "correct". I've seen some diagrams posted on the internet that show the first wiring diagram. Don't do that one. Your truck will read 0.0 volts at the rear O2 and will throw a code P0136 "O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction". Go with the second diagram.

Step 3: Make sure the resistor and capacitor are protected from the elements somehow. I'd recommend wrapping everything up in electrical tape. Then re-install the O2 sensor back into the exhaust pipe, and hook the pigtail connector back into the wiring harness. Make sure that none of the wires hang too close to the exhaust pipe (you may have to zip tie things out of the way).

That's it. This should help get rid of your P0420 code for good, whether you have a catalytic converter in place or not. My '99 has had a P0420 code since the day I bought it, and it's been like that for over 2 years. It has the California style emissions and 2 catalytic converters, yet it still threw a code for "Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold". Every time I'd reset the Check Engine light, it would come back right away with the same code. After building and installing this O2 spoofer, I have yet to have the Check Engine light come back on.


That Radio Shack part number (272-1055) for the 1uF 250v cap is not available any longer. I found a 1uF 50v (272-0059). Should that work since this is after all a 12v system?
 
Let's say you want to remove the section of pipe the rear o-2 sensor is in. Will this mod work without having to have the sensor in the pipe?
If no, does anyone know if there is a mod that can plug into the harness in place of the O-2 sensor and give the signal the computer needs to not throw codes?

I want to replace the exhaust and eliminate the cat and rear o-2-
Thanks
 
The 1 second RC thing has me wondering.......the radio shack cap isn't a polarized cap. Shouldn't it be? I'm looking at making one for a friend and have plenty of 470uF 35v caps and a 1 second RC would require a 2.5k ohm resistor.


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I don't think the 1 RC thing is going to work. Since the O2 sensor signal is basically a AC low voltage circuit the 470uf Cap will take much longer the charge that a 1uf cap would. This simulator is more like a capacitive voltage divider. The rear O2 sensor can't have a identical swing in voltage as the front sensor. May be......the switching frequency may also need to lag the front O2 sensor too.


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Tried the modified O2 sim on a 2001 Limited Cali Spec. Unfortunately it diidn't work. :(. The P0420 code did not reappear after the sim was installed, but instead was replaced with a P0136 code and CEL back on. Was worth a try for a few bucks.
 
I have a 2001 runner and recently purchased a URD O2 simulator. As I understand it, I'm looking for the rear O2 sensor plug which is located under the passenger seat. Is anyone aware of a how to video out there? I've searched extensively and cant find one. Just looking for a little guidance before I get started.
 
I dont remember them being that far back. I think they were closer to the front of the cabin by your legs. Mine were pretty easy to see. I used ty wraps to secure the extra cables on the harness so they didnt hang down.
 
I have a 2001 runner and recently purchased a URD O2 simulator. As I understand it, I'm looking for the rear O2 sensor plug which is located under the passenger seat. Is anyone aware of a how to video out there? I've searched extensively and cant find one. Just looking for a little guidance before I get started.

No, the plug is UNDER the truck, usually hanging off a little support strap welded on somewhere near the exhaust. Years vary, but none of them have it under the seat.

Just follow the wires from the sensor in the exhaust pipe until you get to the plug.
 
Before I get into describing how to build your own rear O2 simulator, I just want to say that I did not come up with this mod on my own. You can search Google and find all kinds of write-ups describing this method. However, I didn't see any write-ups here on T4R, and since many of us suffer from the P0420 disease, I figured I'd share it here as well.

I also apologize for the lack of pictures. I didn't think about posting this write-up until everything was put together and installed on my rig. I encourage other people who do this mod to take pictures along the way and post them up.

You will need to have a working rear O2 sensor for this spoof to work. By "working" I mean that all you have to have is an O2 sensor that's putting out some kind of signal. You're O2 sensor can still be "bad" (putting out bogus signals), but as long as it's putting out something, we can modify it and fool the ECU into thinking that the rear O2 is okay, and that the catalytic converter is working like it should be (even if you don't have one). This method is far cheaper than replacing the rear O2, and is MUCH MUCH cheaper than replacing your catalytic converter.

DO NOT DO THIS MOD TO YOUR FRONT OXYGEN SENSOR. ONLY DO THIS TO THE REAR ONE.

Before you get started, you'll need to run to RadioShack and pick up two items:

A 1 Microfarad (1μF) Capacitor - RadioShack part number 272-1055
A 1 Mega ohm (1MΩ) Resistor - RadioShack part number 271-1134

This should cost around $5 or $6.

Step 1: This step isn't required, but it will make things easier. Unbolt the rear oxygen sensor from the exhaust pipe, which is held on by two 12mm nuts. Then disconnect the rear O2 sensor pigtail from the main wiring harness. With the rear O2 sensor completely removed, you can modify it on your work table or where ever you want, instead of cutting and splicing while underneath your rig.

Step 2: Cut the blue and white wires on the oxygen sensor. Leave the two black wires alone, they are part of the heater circuit and we don't want to mess with that. I chose to cut the blue and white wires halfway between the sensor element and the plug connector. Wire in the resistor and capacitor as shown below. I chose to use heat shrink butt connectors, however if you want to use another method such as soldering, crimping, etc. then that's completely up to you. Use whatever method you like. Just make sure it looks like this:

2enatuva.jpg


You'll notice that I have the first diagram labeled "incorrect" and the second one labeled "correct". I've seen some diagrams posted on the internet that show the first wiring diagram. Don't do that one. Your truck will read 0.0 volts at the rear O2 and will throw a code P0136 "O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction". Go with the second diagram.

Step 3: Make sure the resistor and capacitor are protected from the elements somehow. I'd recommend wrapping everything up in electrical tape. Then re-install the O2 sensor back into the exhaust pipe, and hook the pigtail connector back into the wiring harness. Make sure that none of the wires hang too close to the exhaust pipe (you may have to zip tie things out of the way).

That's it. This should help get rid of your P0420 code for good, whether you have a catalytic converter in place or not. My '99 has had a P0420 code since the day I bought it, and it's been like that for over 2 years. It has the California style emissions and 2 catalytic converters, yet it still threw a code for "Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold". Every time I'd reset the Check Engine light, it would come back right away with the same code. After building and installing this O2 spoofer, I have yet to have the Check Engine light come back on.

Do you still have any pictures of the wiring diagram and actual wiring? I'm doing this mod this week.

Thanks
 
Hi Guys , I just tried this modification on my 2002 Toyota 4Runner. I actually used a 4.7microfarad capacitor and the 1M-Ohm resistor. Prior to this modification the o2 sensor monitor always set easily and the catalyst threw the p0420 code. Afterwords, the catalyst monitor set, however the computer threw the p0136 code. This apparently means that: "(The P0136 code is set when the Engine Control Module (ECM) detects that the rear O2 sensor signal voltage is out of range for an extended period of time)".

Do you have any input on what I can do to correct this? Could the different capacitor have messed with the data?

Thanks

I’m having the same issue, worked fine for a year and got rid of the annoying po420, however I filled the tank up last weekend and 20 miles after driving in getting a po136 and a po141 code. Any idea what I should do? I cleared it and tighten the gas cap but I doubt that’s it. Drove 200 miles and hasn’t came back on. Any tips? Thanks
 
I did it, I followed the instructions, soldered in the parts, put the O2 sensor back in and the check engine light was still on. Next I disconnected my battery for an hour and boom it worked! No more check engine light.
 
Hi there, apologies for the necrobump but i just wanted to thank the OP [MENTION=70922]Robb235[/MENTION] for this post. I used this on my (now daughter's) Subaru Forester and as soon as I reconnected battery and started the car the CEL cleared. Excellent.

In my case the headers originally cause a P0420 code, then i used a sparkplug anti fouler to raise the sensor out of the exhaust flow a bit - worked for 2 years until the anti fouler rusted off so her 02 sensor was dangling around down by the exhaust! Never mind the P0137 code that came along with it. Since i could not get the remaining rusted out anti fouler out of the bunghole, even with PB blaster, I resorted to this trick.

Advice to the average joe like me (e.g. amateur). Unless you are a master solderer i'd go with another connection method, since in my case at least they were aluminum wires (pretty sure it's aluminum anyway going by it's resistance to solder) and simply would not take the average solder i was using. I'm not new to soldering, but again far from great at it. I didn't bring any flux to my daughter's either so that didn't help, but I doubt I had strong enough stuff anyway. I ended up using alternative methods to secure the wires.

Here are the caps and resistors i used
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0185FHALI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E6PDETE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
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So I did this mod to my rear O2 sensor on my 2000 with a low cat efficiency check engine light. I didn't unhook the battery as I wanted to see if the code would clear on its own after install. So once installed I went for a drive on the freeway and after about 5 min the light went out. I believe that I have a clogged cat so now that I know this works I will go about unclogging the cat. Great mod and write up. thank you
 
Just chiming in to say that this mod finally got rid of my intermittent p0420 and I passed emissions with it. :)

Im not sure if it was mentioned anywhere, but capacitors are polarized, so keep that in mind during the install.

Edit: forgot to mention I run cat delete.
 

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