Is it just me or do Limiteds (and Nightshades) have some sort of stigma about them?

[Humble Leader]

two things....
1. This weekend I witnessed first hand the magic of crawl control. I was guiding an inexperienced Taco trd off road (stock with BFG ko2) uphill an off camber bouldered shelf road (with about a foot to spare on the ledge side. It was definitely tricky. Anyways they got caught on the last boulder, driver side in the air, rears locked and loosing traction and only the front passenger unable to make it half way up the boulder. We engaged crawl and he let off brake, magically it made it up with no issues. It definitely works in sticky situations.

2. my girlfriends brother has a very nice limited....he said he wished he had gotten a TRD as the limited is too much of a a soccer mom car. I told him I though that it was his wifes car anyways lol.

of course MTS and crawl control are good - but if I had to choose rear locker or those, I'd choose rear locker.

soccer mom car? I'm not familiar with that term I had to google it. I'm still confused. how does one characterize someone by the type of vehicle they drive. If someone is gonna drop $40K+ on a truck I'd hope they have more self esteem than to be bothered by a nonsensical stereotype. or I'm just not understanding

 

[lewdog998]

of course MTS and crawl control are good - but if I had to choose rear locker or those, I'd choose rear locker.

soccer mom car? I'm not familiar with that term I had to google it. I'm still confused. how does one characterize someone by the type of vehicle they drive. If someone is gonna drop $40K+ on a truck I'd hope they have more self esteem than to be bothered by a nonsensical stereotype. or I'm just not understanding

They had a rear locker that was engaged as well.

regarding the soccer mom comment...yes it is a nonsensical stereotype..but just poking fun. The limited is certainly very practical do anything vehicle.

But I can also say that it is very normal to characterize someone by the vehicle they drive and there is nothing wrong with that. Cars (at least in the US) are very personal items to a person. This site is evidence to that. People love their cars/trucks. Being a lifelong motorcycle rider I pay very close attention to cars, and yes you can make judgements about the car type and condition. As an example, If I see a busted up hoopty wanting to take a left in my path, I cover my brakes. I can tell you that most corvette drivers are likely older and less ticket prone than the WRX driver.

 

[Humble Leader]

Cars (at least in the US) are very personal items to a person.

oh it's like that in canada too. maybe too in some other parts of the world, but really is a first world kinda thing lol

 

[Bas_G]

There is not enough of a distinction between a Limited or any other model of Runner to stamp it a mom van. It's only the people that are shopping for one that can really tell the difference besides "oh It has a couple of chrome bits".

And slapping a couple of stickers and a cheap fox kit on a truck doesn't suddenly make a TRD the god of the trails lol

 

[matoolie]

I own both a ‘14 Limited and a ‘21 Pro. Back in ‘14, the first year of facelift across all models, the Limited had some features other trims didn’t have. Push button start, auto climate, heated/ventilated seats, memory seats, leather, JBL with nav, AWD, and others I’m sure I’m forgetting. The AWD is nice in heavy wet weather or light snow. When the XREAS goes out, you can install a lift kit along with 17” wheels and tires and just as off-road capable as other trim levels, minus locker. And want better approach angle, swap bumper cover. And you still have unique features of Limited.

Over the years, the unique features of the Limited, probably the most popular ones, have made it over to other models and the differentiation is not as much as it used to be in my opinion. I think the AWD is still a big differentiator but nice having a shift lever even though never had a problem with electronic control on Limited.

 

[Bmnorm2]

So... basically all higher trim level trucks that aren't off-road specific are "soccer mom cars". I learned something today. Anyone been in a Ram Limited? How about a Ford Platinum/Limited/King Ranch? What a bunch of soccer moms!

In reality this all reeks of jealousy and closed mindedness. Different strokes for different folks. Be curious, not judgemental.

 

[Mark4runnar]

I have both a Limited (2014) and a TRD PRO (2022), both are good at what they do..........well except for the limited "grill" - ridiculous

 

[Bumbo]

So... basically all higher trim level trucks that aren't off-road specific are "soccer mom cars". I learned something today. Anyone been in a Ram Limited? How about a Ford Platinum/Limited/King Ranch? What a bunch of soccer moms!

In reality this all reeks of jealousy and closed mindedness. Different strokes for different folks. Be curious, not judgemental.

This...

Lot of judging based purely off aesthetics and perceived trim level.

A good friend of mine owns a TRD Off Road... it's primarily driven by his wife, has two car seats in the back, and had never seen any off-road driving.

They literally refer to it as the baby hauler. They picked it because it looked cool, and didn't want a minivan.

 

[lewdog998]

So... basically all higher trim level trucks that aren't off-road specific are "soccer mom cars". I learned something today. Anyone been in a Ram Limited? How about a Ford Platinum/Limited/King Ranch? What a bunch of soccer moms!

In reality this all reeks of jealousy and closed mindedness. Different strokes for different folks. Be curious, not judgemental.

Not really its all in good fun. I would compare it to siblings picking on each other. In the end we are all in the 4r family.

that being said....
All Limited drivers are soccer moms who wont even jump a curb with their blinged out chrome 4r.

All TRD Pro owners are insecure about their small man parts.
(wait...I drive a Pro)

There you go...equal insults for all.

 

[WarrIndustries]

I own a Limited but I always liked the front end of the SR5/Pro a lot more. Back when I bought it, the Limited had the passenger features I was looking for when the other models didn't. At least more passenger features have been added to the newer Pros.

 

[Steve40th396]

This...

Lot of judging based purely off aesthetics and perceived trim level.

A good friend of mine owns a TRD Off Road... it's primarily driven by his wife, has two car seats in the back, and had never seen any off-road driving.

They literally refer to it as the baby hauler. They picked it because it looked cool, and didn't want a minivan.

That is so true, people don't like the mini van stereotype.
A 4runner is far cooler than a mini van..

 

[aggrobot]

So... basically all higher trim level trucks that aren't off-road specific are "soccer mom cars". I learned something today. Anyone been in a Ram Limited? How about a Ford Platinum/Limited/King Ranch? What a bunch of soccer moms!

In reality this all reeks of jealousy and closed mindedness. Different strokes for different folks. Be curious, not judgemental.

Ive always thought it was in good fun. I love that theres this perception that the same vehicle in different trims can be so wildly different. Im glad we have an active, healthy fan base. No actual hate from me here. I love seeing how different folks build/keep their setups. I cant say enough good things about my limited, and Im glad to see other folks feel the same way about their rides.

 

[2021nightshade4x4]

That is so true, people don't like the mini van stereotype.
A 4runner is far cooler than a mini van..

People want to act like it’s a Chevy Uplander or something haha


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[Humble Leader]

I'm just gonna let you all know that the chevy express vans can be equipped with a 6.6L v8 or a 2.4L turbo diesel. it can tow up to 10,000lbs. I think you can also equip it with a second battery from factory as well + locking rear diff from factory

get yourself one of those, put on some better rims and tires, maybe a nice roof rack and you have a pretty nice overlanding rig. if you drop some $$$ you could add front and centre locker

I was actually at home depot a month or so ago and saw one that had what looks liked TRD pro rims (they weren't but looked like them) with some nice AT tires and a mild lift. looked damn nice

the only downside? well it's a chevy :drum:

 

[2021nightshade4x4]

I'm just gonna let you all know that the chevy express vans can be equipped with a 6.6L v8 or a 2.4L turbo diesel. it can tow up to 10,000lbs. I think you can also equip it with a second battery from factory as well + locking rear diff from factory

get yourself one of those, put on some better rims and tires, maybe a nice roof rack and you have a pretty nice overlanding rig. if you drop some $$$ you could add front and centre locker

I was actually at home depot a month or so ago and saw one that had what looks liked TRD pro rims (they weren't but looked like them) with some nice AT tires and a mild lift. looked damn nice

the only downside? well it's a chevy :drum:

I geeked out searching Chevy Express the other day on CarGurus, and found the following:

- Most AWD vans were 1500’s.
- No diesels were AWD.
- A handful, and I mean almost none, of the 2500’s squeaked by and got AWD, but again, none were diesels.

This leaves us to extensive work needing to be done in each case of finding 1500/AWD (diesel swap), 2500/AWD (diesel swap, but easier?), 2500/Diesel (AWD swap).

Which of these would be most plausible, given parts availability / cost?


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[aggrobot]

I'm just gonna let you all know that the chevy express vans can be equipped with a 6.6L v8 or a 2.4L turbo diesel. it can tow up to 10,000lbs. I think you can also equip it with a second battery from factory as well + locking rear diff from factory

get yourself one of those, put on some better rims and tires, maybe a nice roof rack and you have a pretty nice overlanding rig. if you drop some $$$ you could add front and centre locker

I was actually at home depot a month or so ago and saw one that had what looks liked TRD pro rims (they weren't but looked like them) with some nice AT tires and a mild lift. looked damn nice

the only downside? well it's a chevy :drum:

You spend any time in /r/vandwellers? Some great stuff there! I love checking out all the builds!

 

[SurferUK]

Did you get the Toyota Delica 4x4 over there?

 

[aggrobot]

Did you get the Toyota Delica 4x4 over there?

Not even kidding here: one of my earlier cars as a young lad was the celica all-trac AWD. Water to air inter cooled. Fun car when it ran. As far as the Toyota Delica, im not so sure. There was a toyota van that looked a LOT like it, but I think it was just called Toyota Van.

 

[131North]

I just had to go back and re-read the thread title to make sure I was in the right place.

 

[aggrobot]

I just had to go back and re-read the thread title to make sure I was in the right place.

Soccer moms bonding over Celicas and Delicas?