Haha we would if you could understand any of it lol. Don't you agree with my last post adressing the fire road scenario? Enjoyed the debate though! What's funny is not very many wanted to get involved in this conversation. All of you guys have a great week and don't do too much damage at the mall on Friday!
Actually, my understanding of it is quite accurate. It is harper and you that need to read up more on KDSS. (I do so much like it when harper look down on Prius owners...only later having to eat his words!

) Yes, on fire road, the KDSS 4runner will be better. KDSS improves articulation...it may not extend wheel travel in the absolute sense, but when off-roading, the improved articulation (flexibility of the axles) are noticeable. I saw it with my own eyes with GX470 KDSS vs. FJC when off-roading.
They're both the same trucks, take the sway bar off the SR5 and it will climb higher up the ramp.
And how easy is that? I just don't see many 4runner nor FJC owners jumping out and disco'ing their sway bars. With KDSS, the BEAUTY of it is the improved on-road ride AND the off-road agility...all without laying a finger on the suspension. It is the best of both worlds for a stock off-roader...a perfect compromise if you will.
Sure it will with our long travel suspension system for the FJ Cruiser and 4Runner

just can't use sway bars to achieve those numbers
I thought that we're talking stock here. Wonderful. Couldn't KDSS owner do the same mod?
What i see here is classic on Jeep forums. You have the camp where anything OEM sucks. Jeeps are built not bought mentality! This camp always look down on the Rubicon owners as being fakes. Look guys, especially SR5 owners, there is NO REASON to hate on the TE/KDSS. It is a wonderful technology that works! The naysayers are showing their jealousy.
Fine, if you bought your 4runner to mod the crap out of it in hope of becoming a primarily weekend off-roader, then great...you don't need KDSS...but, to be honest, you should have bought a Jeep Wrangler as the starting platform!! We all bought 4runners because it is practical, reliable, and safe. Weekend only trucks are none of that...so, you kinda destroy the main purpose of buying a 4runner in the first place.
Now, if you bought the SR5 and now crapping on KDSS, then that is just dumb. Don't blame the KDSS...blame your wallet! Stock for stock, a TE will molest SR5 off-road (and on-road!)...well, given decent set of tires. As for Limited, TE will beat it too...fairly easily. But, i can forgive Limited owners a tiny bit because they do have Multi-mode 4wd, which is handy in bad weather. But, to sh!t on KDSS is just plain ridiculous, esp. when one claims to be
the expert!
This thread smells of jealousy IMHO...as a Prius-station-wagon owning outsider.
Oh BTW, flame on! I am a big boy....
