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I'm glad the thread was recovered. I didn't read it in the past and I am sort of sad I didn't. Glad we were able to recover it and clean it up some, very interesting read. Best of luck Josh.
 
That's the first time I've ever seen a MOD listen and respond to the people. If only it were that easy to get Hilary to shut up about gun control.
 
As others expressed I'm just glad it was kept up to inform others of the issue/issues at hand, albeit there was some bantering the documents, facts, and interaction by both companies that was submitted truly is informative of the overall issue in question. While I agree deleting did take it away and leave the rest of the public blind to the matter, locking it is the best possibility I believe.

Like most people who have a lot of effort and input into situations/jobs etc that usually goes under appreciated. Thank you for taking the time to listen and making changes for the better.
Thank you admin
 
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I'm currently trying to work with [MENTION=165]momo.75[/MENTION] and [MENTION=25058]ChildrenOfBodom[/MENTION] to weed through the thread's negative posts and reopen it for viewing pleasure. Please be patient. An over reaction may have been the case but please understand there is a lot that goes on behind closed doors that persuaded the initial reaction to the thread. My actions were solely based on the forums example as a family oriented site and how we were not acting as so. I have nothing wrong with the thread for what it is and what it stands for. Please allow me to "write this wrong" and the time for us to bring the thread back.

Respectable move Admin...

When researching info and attempting to gather an overall consensus from all points of view in order to be able to, as an individual, form ones own opinion on a subject, it would be very difficult to trust a medium of information knowing that certain information can simply be "removed". (Although having the information edited can allude to much the same effect.)
Closing the thread was likely necessary.

Again, respectable move Admin, faith restored, thank you.
 
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Being a new member here I'm very glad to see that this thread was restored. I can understand how a moderator could be tempted to just make such a mess disappear, but it's a much better service to the community that the time was taken to weed out the truly objectionable and retain the highly informative and important discussion that's also there. This effort is particularly significant in a case like this one where there are legitimate concerns regarding the potential for undue influence and conflicts of interest. The forum is stronger today for having shown both integrity and discipline here. Thank you.
 
This was one of the crazier things I've seen on this site. This place should never be censored, but there is a fine line between a civil discussion and inciting mobbish behavior. While more posts were respectful and knowledge based than not, the spillover into personal lives and discussion outside of the forum was reprehensible. In my opinion, the more vocal members should realize that many more people who don't register here are viewing this site as an information hub, and should hold that in some kind of regard when positioning your words.

I'm not trying to step into this any further, and I realize sides have already been taken in the issue, but I'd like you to see a glimpse of the other end. This is just one of the messages sent to Gobi.

I hope your company sinks into the pitiful despair from whence it came. I am nothing but an observer of both yours and whitson metalworks racks and can say your racks look like complete overpriced **** compared to their blatantly original and superior design. Karma is a *****, hope you get counter sued and go under. There is no room for ignorant ***** like you in this world, good companies that last do so because they know how to innovate... have fun responding to this troll account that has nothing to do with my real identity. ****. You should have been inside that ***** aurora theater when homeboy shot people up, only people like you deserve that kind of fate (pretty *****, right? so are you). Patent or not, his racks strike only a resemblance based on the fact that they fit the same damn vehicle, yet share no other resemblance. I might be in the market for some of the products you guys offer eventually, but would never even consider anything made by you **** heads, and will continue to tell everybody I know to avoid your shitty products. You ********** brought this upon yourself.
P.S. God hates you. Eat **** and die, I honestly would laugh if you did... and I'm a nice guy. You gonna sue me for writing this? Good ******' luck, asshats. Damn you guys are pathetic... here's an idea, maybe try to make a better product for a reasonable price? if you are taking losses, maybe consider taking a college course in business - or dare i say, business ethics? **** you very much. Goodbye.

I don't care much whose side people are on here, but people's emotions took precedence over facts and encouraged keyboard warriors to write stuff like this. If everyone were interested purely in the facts and didn't immediately reach for the pitchforks, I think it could have gone a lot better. I think it's a learning lesson for everyone involved, but I expected better out of the community. Hopefully we have a better tone moving forward that's more conducive to information and logical discussion.
 
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And what are you trying to accomplish by posting this? How do we even know that was a real email sent to Gobi? If it was sent to Gobi, then why would you have it?
 
I'm sharing my thoughts and one of the results of the thread, if that's ok with you momo.

Gobi is one of the companies I work with, and I am in constant contact with all of them. All you need to know is that it was a genuine message sent to them.
 
And what are you trying to accomplish by posting this? How do we even know that was a real email sent to Gobi? If it was sent to Gobi, then why would you have it?

Agree. [MENTION=8329]MillerPKA[/MENTION] that smacks of the same shite that got the thread in trouble to begin, and posting it does not speak well to your good sense.

I'd suggest you delete it. As it is, YOU posted it, so it speaks worse of you than whomever wrote it.
 
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I'm sharing my thoughts and one of the results of the thread, if that's ok with you momo.

Gobi is one of the companies I work with, and I am in constant contact with all of them. All you need to know is that it was a genuine message sent to them.

This is the kind of attitude that the forum doesn't need. This issue had been low key and now you post something like this. Seems like you want this to get all fired up again.
 
Agree. [MENTION=8329]MillerPKA[/MENTION] that smacks of the same shite that got the thread in trouble to begin, and does not speak well to your good sense.

I'd suggest you delete it.

I'd rather everyone see what the earlier discussion can propagate. I'm a forum member first and my only beef has been with how people here handled it. If you wouldn't say it to someone's face it's probably best kept to yourself.
 
This is the kind of attitude that the forum doesn't need. This issue had been low key and now you post something like this. Seems like you want this to get all fired up again.

Attitude? I'm not interested in arguing with you. If cooler heads are indeed here then this should still be low key. I'm simply relaying one of the messages they got. It needs to be shared and that's why I did. If you have any other qualms feel free to message me direct.
 
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I appreciated the discussion and the discourse in the W vs G thread. It needed to be. I also appreciated that "y'all" cleaned it and put it back up.

I'm disappointed that all that grief and repair is now being tainted by member [MENTION=8329]MillerPKA[/MENTION] 's attempts to eff that all up again by "showing the other side".

It should be behind us.

Perhaps he should hear from you?
 
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I appreciated the discussion and the discourse in the W vs G thread. It needed to be. I also appreciated that "y'all" cleaned it and put it back up.

I'm disappointed that all that grief and repair is now being tainted by member [MENTION=8329]MillerPKA[/MENTION] 's attempts to eff that all up again by "showing the other side".

It should be behind us.

Perhaps he should hear from you?

[MENTION=5653]admin[/MENTION] can also contact me directly if there is any issue.
 
I'm not sure why you would even acknowledge an email like that. He even says right in the email that he's a troll.
have fun responding to this troll account that has nothing to do with my real identity.
You shouldn't feed trolls. You're on the internet, those kind of posts just come with the territory.
 
I'm not sure why you would even acknowledge an email like that. He even says right in the email that he's a troll.

You shouldn't feed trolls. You're on the internet, those kind of posts just come with the territory.

I was forwarding this from Gobi. And while I understand trolling and other online nuances, the people who received this are not as internet savvy. People at that company were/are scared for their own lives and their families based off the messages they received. They are in the process of receiving a very harsh introduction to the online world.

As for stoking fires, I know a lot of people here personally, and some for a long time. That's never been my agenda. I am not interested in appeasing people I don't know, but I am always available via PM if anyone would like a civil discussion. Otherwise I have nothing else for this.
 
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